Chopin Conclusion

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Chopin Conclusion, Regarding Etudes

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Cyrilla	Nov 27 2005, 02:09 PM Post #91
Unregistered	Hear, hear! It does seem to be a feature of Kodaly work in particular - that the overall sound in many lessons is that of many pennies dropping... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

IrisH - LoonY	Nov 27 2005, 02:22 PM Post #92
Unregistered	QUOTE(sl123451 @ Nov 25 2005, 10:59 PM) QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Nov 25 2005, 10:46 PM) QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Nov 25 2005, 09:16 AM) It reminds me of the legend that Mozart's mum used to get him up out of bed by playing an unresolved V7 chord on the keyboard!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Really? Hahahaha!! IrisH - LoonY really??? haha your so funny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) oh by the way im going to have to steal your title as "chopin expert" seeing as i played the c minor polonaise and offficially became the best pianist in my school by a long way...as judged by mr.ian jones.....oooooohh!! yeahh!! u got nothing 2 say about that have u chris!!! 3 things in response to this 1) I never made the joke, chocolatedog did, I merely found it amusing. 2) I've NEVER once claimed to be a "Chopin Expert" ONCE! 3) I'm not really bothered if you are the "best pianist" in your school to be honest, as frankly there's already plenty of pianists way better than ANYONE on this forum, Kempf, Lang, Kissin, Ashkenazy, Rubinstein, Baremboim, Jando, Bolet, Capova, Perlmuter, the works. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Grow up IrisH - LoonY P.S. What are the various modes of scales like Mxyolidian, Lydian, etc? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Oddball	Nov 27 2005, 02:30 PM Post #93
Unregistered	QUOTE What are the various modes of scales like Mxyolidian, Lydian, etc? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) First degree - Ionian - The major scale Second degree - Dorian - Minor Third degree - Phyrigian - Minor Fourth degree - Lydian - major Fifth degree - Mixolydian - dominant Sixth degree - Aeolian - Natrual minor Seventh degree - Locrian - Minor They are the same scale, just starting on a different note. For example: C major - Ionian (tonic) - C D E F G A B C Dorian (supertonic) - D E F G A B C D Notice, this is not the D major scale. It's the C major scale whacked up a tone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

IrisH - LoonY	Nov 27 2005, 02:35 PM Post #94
Unregistered	QUOTE(Oddball @ Nov 27 2005, 02:30 PM) QUOTE What are the various modes of scales like Mxyolidian, Lydian, etc? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) First degree - Ionian - The major scale Second degree - Dorian - Minor Third degree - Phyrigian - Minor Fourth degree - Lydian - major Fifth degree - Mixolydian - dominant Sixth degree - Aeolian - Natrual minor Seventh degree - Locrian - Minor They are the same scale, just starting on a different note. For example: C major - Ionian (tonic) - C D E F G A B C Dorian (supertonic) - D E F G A B C D Notice, this is not the D major scale. It's the C major scale whacked up a tone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thankee kindly Oddball (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I know how they work, just didn't know the names. I wonder where my friend got "Hypermyxolidian" from then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) IrisH - LoonY

Oddball	Nov 27 2005, 02:53 PM Post #95
Unregistered	Probably made it up... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

IrisH - LoonY	Nov 27 2005, 03:06 PM Post #96
Unregistered	QUOTE(Oddball @ Nov 27 2005, 02:53 PM) Probably made it up... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Just what I'm thinking. IrisH - LoonY

chocolatedog	Nov 27 2005, 05:01 PM Post #97
Unregistered	Nope I'm fairly sure it's not made up - I've heard of it from somewhere in the dim and oh so distant past goes to have a look at old university files............ Found it - AB Guide to Music Theory part II "Each mode was said to exist in two forms, authentic and plagal. The plagal form of the mode always lies a perfect fourth below the authentic mode. Plagal modes were distinguished by the prefix 'Hypo-' (Greek for 'under'): Hypodorian, Hypophrygian etc." So there you have it - not made up at all.........!! This post has been edited by chocolatedog: Nov 27 2005, 05:07 PM

Oddball	Nov 27 2005, 05:16 PM Post #98
Unregistered	If found it too!! http://tonalsoft.com/enc/h/hypermixolydian.aspx The only trouble is....now I know there's loads more modes to learn (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I suppose that's not a bad thing though!!

chocolatedog	Nov 27 2005, 05:30 PM Post #99
Unregistered	QUOTE(Oddball @ Nov 27 2005, 05:16 PM) If found it too!! http://tonalsoft.com/enc/h/hypermixolydian.aspx The only trouble is....now I know there's loads more modes to learn (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I suppose that's not a bad thing though!! Just noticed your cow is now called Moosorgsky - very amoosing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Udderly hilarious! This post has been edited by chocolatedog: Nov 27 2005, 05:31 PM

noodle	Nov 27 2005, 06:12 PM Post #100
Unregistered	QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Nov 27 2005, 05:30 PM) Just noticed your cow is now called Moosorgsky - very amoosing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Udderly hilarious! Yes udderly hilarious! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Unfortunately when I laugh I can't stop coughing....................

Cyrilla	Nov 27 2005, 06:21 PM Post #101
Unregistered	Same here.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

IrisH - LoonY	Nov 27 2005, 06:23 PM Post #102
Unregistered	QUOTE(noodle @ Nov 27 2005, 06:12 PM) QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Nov 27 2005, 05:30 PM) Just noticed your cow is now called Moosorgsky - very amoosing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Udderly hilarious! Yes udderly hilarious! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Unfortunately when I laugh I can't stop coughing.................... Ditto (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) IrisH - LoonY

SuzyMac	Nov 27 2005, 06:57 PM Post #103
Unregistered	QUOTE(noodle @ Nov 27 2005, 06:12 PM) QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Nov 27 2005, 05:30 PM) Just noticed your cow is now called Moosorgsky - very amoosing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Udderly hilarious! Yes udderly hilarious! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Unfortunately when I laugh I can't stop coughing.................... Is it possible to catch a cold over the forums? I've not been in contact with too many sick people this last week (oddly...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

pianostar	Nov 27 2005, 09:14 PM Post #104
Unregistered	I've never caught a cold over the forum...I didn't think you could... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Hehe, anyway - Oddball - modes are easy, though, aren't they? It's like normal scales only without any black keys, basically, like you've just said yourslef - it's only C major shifted up the scale! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Modes sound neither major nor minor because of this. The only thing I'm confused about now...(well, I'm always confused about one thing or another) is when someone (can't remember who it was, sorry...was it you, pianoplayer? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ) said that Chopin used the Lydian 4th. And then somebody else kindly explained to me that a Lydian 4th is the 4th note in the Lydian scale. But, if the Lydian scale is: F G A B C D E F Then how is F# the 4th note? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) cries I'm soooo oooseless! (since we're in the U= OO era now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif))

noodle	Nov 27 2005, 11:05 PM Post #105
Unregistered	QUOTE(SuzyMac @ Nov 27 2005, 06:57 PM) QUOTE(noodle @ Nov 27 2005, 06:12 PM) QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Nov 27 2005, 05:30 PM) Just noticed your cow is now called Moosorgsky - very amoosing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Udderly hilarious! Yes udderly hilarious! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Unfortunately when I laugh I can't stop coughing.................... Is it possible to catch a cold over the forums? I've not been in contact with too many sick people this last week (oddly...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) I'm beginning to think it is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(pianostar @ Nov 27 2005, 09:14 PM) I've never caught a cold over the forum...I didn't think you could... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Hehe, anyway - Oddball - modes are easy, though, aren't they? It's like normal scales only without any black keys, basically, like you've just said yourslef - it's only C major shifted up the scale! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Modes sound neither major nor minor because of this. The only thing I'm confused about now...(well, I'm always confused about one thing or another) is when someone (can't remember who it was, sorry...was it you, pianoplayer? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ) said that Chopin used the Lydian 4th. And then somebody else kindly explained to me that a Lydian 4th is the 4th note in the Lydian scale. But, if the Lydian scale is: F G A B C D E F Then how is F# the 4th note? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) cries I'm soooo oooseless! (since we're in the U= OO era now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)) A lydian scale beginning on C would have F# as the fourth note. The lydian scale is similar to the major except for the fourth note which is raised. So C D E F# G A B C would be lydian scale on C. Sorry, I'm too tired to be articulate tonight. Maybe someone else can explain it better! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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