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Andy-piano-flute	Apr 27 2008, 07:52 PM Post #16
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2055 Joined: 8-February 05 From: Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland Member No.: 3099	QUOTE(noodle @ Apr 27 2008, 08:49 PM) Wonder why he isn't doing A level music.... ..he'd do a fab recital for it wouldn't he?!

Violinia	Apr 27 2008, 07:54 PM Post #17
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4063 Joined: 27-December 03 Member No.: 319	Does anybody agree with me about the violinist playing out of tune? There must have been a good reason for it - nerves, being out with the piano, a slipped string - because she couldn't have got that far if she always played so out of tune...

Claire21	Apr 28 2008, 07:04 AM Post #18
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 800 Joined: 5-September 04 Member No.: 2034	QUOTE(ffliwt @ Apr 27 2008, 03:49 PM) I agree that almost all of them go to specialist music schools and stuff, and i don't think it's fair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Obviously if they're the best, then they're the best, but it makes me feel as though there's no point in me entering any of these competitions as i stand no chance against people who've been at specialist music schools for years! They should have a Young Musician of the Year for Ordinary Mortals as well, in my opinion. As least that would be slightly more meaningful. QUOTE Is it the same way with auditioning for conservatoires? I'm wondering if there's any point - as i'm going to be up against these people! I know Sags thinks otherwise, but I would suspect that the conservatoires - especially the 'Royals' - are biased towards the specialist music schools. Admittedly it was a long time ago now (almost 20 years) but when I went to a Guildhall audition, they didn't even listen to me. I walked in and they said 'well, obviously we're not going to give you a place...'. And that could only have been based on my paperwork - ie. I went to a bog-standard comp, etc etc. (I should have sued them or something, but I wasn't brave enough in those days!) Coincidentally, I heard the oboist live yesterday, in a masterclass. I liked her tone more in real life. But she was by no means the best person there - she played a piece that was slightly beyond her, and didn't have it completely under control. But she looked good because of all the waving about. Hmmmm.

andante_in_c	Apr 28 2008, 07:35 AM Post #19
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 10320 Joined: 15-November 03 From: Hampshire, UK Member No.: 130	QUOTE(Claire21 @ Apr 28 2008, 08:04 AM) I know Sags thinks otherwise, but I would suspect that the conservatoires - especially the 'Royals' - are biased towards the specialist music schools. Admittedly it was a long time ago now (almost 20 years) but when I went to a Guildhall audition, they didn't even listen to me. I walked in and they said 'well, obviously we're not going to give you a place...'. And that could only have been based on my paperwork - ie. I went to a bog-standard comp, etc etc. (I should have sued them or something, but I wasn't brave enough in those days!) Well, a student of mine this year got as far as the last four at Guildhall. She was offered a reserve place which didn't materialise in the end. She is state-educated, and has her flute lessons at sixth form college with me. One of the candidates she was up against, on the other hand, jetted over to Berlin once a month for lessons with the principal flautist of the Berlin Phil.

harmony2	Apr 28 2008, 07:37 AM Post #20
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 405 Joined: 19-March 07 Member No.: 10155	QUOTE(Claire21 @ Apr 28 2008, 08:04 AM) QUOTE(ffliwt @ Apr 27 2008, 03:49 PM) Is it the same way with auditioning for conservatoires? I'm wondering if there's any point - as i'm going to be up against these people! I know Sags thinks otherwise, but I would suspect that the conservatoires - especially the 'Royals' - are biased towards the specialist music schools. Admittedly it was a long time ago now (almost 20 years) but when I went to a Guildhall audition, they didn't even listen to me. I walked in and they said 'well, obviously we're not going to give you a place...'. And that could only have been based on my paperwork - ie. I went to a bog-standard comp, etc etc. (I should have sued them or something, but I wasn't brave enough in those days!) I personally know 10 students who started at London music colleges last September who haven't been to specialist music schools or junior colleges - one pupil, my son and son's friends. And I do know of a few specialist music school kids who haven't been accepted, so if your playing is up to the required standard (which is high) you stand a good chance. Both my pupil and son said that they heard people practicing at the auditions who seemed to have a totally unrealistic picture of their own ability.

Claire21	Apr 28 2008, 07:58 AM Post #21
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 800 Joined: 5-September 04 Member No.: 2034	QUOTE(harmony2 @ Apr 28 2008, 08:37 AM) I personally know 10 students who started at London music colleges last September who haven't been to specialist music schools or junior colleges - one pupil, my son and son's friends. And I do know of a few specialist music school kids who haven't been accepted, so if your playing is up to the required standard (which is high) you stand a good chance. Both my pupil and son said that they heard people practicing at the auditions who seemed to have a totally unrealistic picture of their own ability. Good. I would hope that in the last 20 years things would have got better, what with all the government initiatives about widening participation. It would be pretty scandalous if it hadn't.

sjc	Apr 28 2008, 08:21 AM Post #22
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 454 Joined: 21-May 07 From: somewhere in england Member No.: 11470	QUOTE(noodle @ Apr 27 2008, 08:49 PM) QUOTE(Andy-piano-flute @ Apr 27 2008, 07:44 PM) His biog says: Ballymena Academy.......".where he is studying for A Levels in French, German, Maths and Further Maths. He began playing at the age of six and travels regularly to Dublin for lessons at the Royal Irish Academy of Music." Which I guess isn't the same as going to a specialist music school full-time, seeing as it would be a 200 mile round trip from Ballymena to Dublin. That's true, but he's not taught in Ballymena Academy either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Wonder why he isn't doing A level music.... Perhaps hes already got it, just a thought (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I havent listened to violinist yet, I will later if I get time.

sjc	Apr 29 2008, 10:46 AM Post #23
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 454 Joined: 21-May 07 From: somewhere in england Member No.: 11470	QUOTE(sjc @ Apr 28 2008, 09:21 AM) QUOTE(noodle @ Apr 27 2008, 08:49 PM) QUOTE(Andy-piano-flute @ Apr 27 2008, 07:44 PM) His biog says: Ballymena Academy.......".where he is studying for A Levels in French, German, Maths and Further Maths. He began playing at the age of six and travels regularly to Dublin for lessons at the Royal Irish Academy of Music." Which I guess isn't the same as going to a specialist music school full-time, seeing as it would be a 200 mile round trip from Ballymena to Dublin. That's true, but he's not taught in Ballymena Academy either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Wonder why he isn't doing A level music.... Perhaps hes already got it, just a thought (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I havent listened to violinist yet, I will later if I get time. had alisten to violinist I wasnt sure about the tuning. I have also listened to delia percussion Her first piece I felt lacked any direction. Never sure about drums played with no music (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) but I loved her second piece it was gorgeous and played well I thought. Will have to compare performances with other 3 now.

DiscoPants	Apr 29 2008, 11:48 AM Post #24
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 654 Joined: 5-November 07 Member No.: 19120	QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Apr 27 2008, 08:11 PM) How can you listen to them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) : This is another stupid question, but when do they get the 20 down to 5? They did it already, in February. They're just keeping you in (false) suspense! The guitar player won the string final, don't know about the rest.

sjc	Apr 29 2008, 12:05 PM Post #25
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 454 Joined: 21-May 07 From: somewhere in england Member No.: 11470	QUOTE(DiscoPants @ Apr 29 2008, 12:48 PM) QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Apr 27 2008, 08:11 PM) How can you listen to them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) : This is another stupid question, but when do they get the 20 down to 5? They did it already, in February. They're just keeping you in (false) suspense! The guitar player won the string final, don't know about the rest. Dont spoil the suprise LOL i wont have to watch then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Cyrilla	Apr 29 2008, 01:00 PM Post #26
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 11902 Joined: 9-November 03 From: Croydon, South London/Surrey Member No.: 99	I know the piano one but am sworn to secrecy!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

STRINGMUM	Apr 29 2008, 05:08 PM Post #27
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 534 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 6262	I know the brass, but I'm not going to spoil it for those who like a bit of suspense.

DiscoPants	Apr 29 2008, 06:11 PM Post #28
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 654 Joined: 5-November 07 Member No.: 19120	I think this competition's a bit of a nonsense, really. If this lot are the 20 best under-19 musicians in the UK, I'll eat a pound of my own earwax.

BerkshireMum	Apr 29 2008, 10:31 PM Post #29
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 6599 Joined: 20-July 07 From: West Berks Member No.: 13405	But not everyone enters the competition, even if they play very well. Only those who enter can reach the last 20! A lot depends on what else people have in the pipeline in terms of A-levels etc; unless you are completely convinced that you are able to put in hours and hours of practice (which is probably much easier to achieve at a specialist music school), you wouldn't do a competition like this. A friend of my son's is in the NYO for clarinet and is jolly good, but she's only 16 and in her AS year at a state school. In two years' time she might well enter, though, as she'll either be on a gap year or at a conservatoire by then, so will have lots more time to practise.

lottie	Apr 30 2008, 06:07 AM Post #30
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3891 Joined: 15-January 07 From: In among the purple heather of Scotland Member No.: 9057	QUOTE(Violinia @ Apr 27 2008, 08:54 PM) Does anybody agree with me about the violinist playing out of tune? There must have been a good reason for it - nerves, being out with the piano, a slipped string - because she couldn't have got that far if she always played so out of tune... I found her painful in a couple of places. I don't have 'perfect pitch' (whatever that is) but I'm very hot on intonation in my own playing.

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