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flutecake	Apr 2 2009, 12:12 PM Post #886
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 303 Joined: 23-March 07 From: Munich Member No.: 10258	Great, just what I wanted to hear. I even have the Handel sonatas, although I am being quite strict about not playing the same ones on the flute and recorder because I worry that I will just confuse myself. I've also got a couple of friends who also play the recorder (both a lot better than me) so we are going to have a get-together some time. I think it will have to be a plastic bass in F though until I see how much I actually play it. So many fun things to do and so little time...

sarah123	Apr 7 2009, 12:55 PM Post #887
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 6484 Joined: 27-July 07 From: Cambridge Member No.: 13655	Does anyone have any idea why G major isn't on the grade 8 scale list? It seems rather strange that you should have to do all keys except one of the easiest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Maizie	Apr 7 2009, 01:37 PM Post #888
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4862 Joined: 5-February 07 From: Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire Member No.: 9360	Probably simply because it is one of the easiest. :runs off to consult spreadsheet: Yes, you'll have done G major at grades 3, 4, 6 and 7, all to a twelfth. They must have figured you'd probably know it by G8, one way of the other, so why ask it again? Mind you, they ask for lots of them again and again... The only thing they could have done for G8 is make it a two octave scale, to throw in a F# for the fun of it. Oh, just noticed, you do get to do G major at G8 - in thirds, to a twelfth (makes note to create new spreadsheet, by tonality rather than grade (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

sarah123	Apr 7 2009, 01:56 PM Post #889
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 6484 Joined: 27-July 07 From: Cambridge Member No.: 13655	QUOTE(Maizie @ Apr 7 2009, 02:37 PM) Probably simply because it is one of the easiest. :runs off to consult spreadsheet: Yes, you'll have done G major at grades 3, 4, 6 and 7, all to a twelfth. They must have figured you'd probably know it by G8, one way of the other, so why ask it again? Mind you, they ask for lots of them again and again... The only thing they could have done for G8 is make it a two octave scale, to throw in a F# for the fun of it. Oh, just noticed, you do get to do G major at G8 - in thirds, to a twelfth (makes note to create new spreadsheet, by tonality rather than grade (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. But you get Bb major in 3rds too and that's been on pretty much all the lists since grade 1 too. It just seems odd for them to miss out G given that it would make the complete set.

anacrusis	Apr 7 2009, 01:57 PM Post #890
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5231 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 4852	cos of the top F# I suspect... it feels sort of silly doing G major as a twelfth, and not all instruments will do the fudged slurred top F#. Admittedly I did end up doing a knee-stop for a high note for Grade 8, but that was Trinity, and not during scales.

sarah123	Apr 7 2009, 02:01 PM Post #891
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 6484 Joined: 27-July 07 From: Cambridge Member No.: 13655	QUOTE(anacrusis @ Apr 7 2009, 02:57 PM) cos of the top F# I suspect... it feels sort of silly doing G major as a twelfth, and not all instruments will do the fudged slurred top F#. Admittedly I did end up doing a knee-stop for a high note for Grade 8, but that was Trinity, and not during scales. But about half the other scales are a twelfth. Only F and Ab are two octaves.

anacrusis	Apr 7 2009, 02:19 PM Post #892
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5231 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 4852	QUOTE(sarah123 @ Apr 7 2009, 03:01 PM) QUOTE(anacrusis @ Apr 7 2009, 02:57 PM) cos of the top F# I suspect... it feels sort of silly doing G major as a twelfth, and not all instruments will do the fudged slurred top F#. Admittedly I did end up doing a knee-stop for a high note for Grade 8, but that was Trinity, and not during scales. But about half the other scales are a twelfth. Only F and Ab are two octaves. yes, but the G major scale fits so comfortably into the two octaves, and F and Ab are after all either side of it - it's just the one pesky note which is a bit of a challenge. But if you love scales, just do it anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). Tell you what - you can have my portion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). generously hands out all scales for consumption

andante_in_c	Apr 7 2009, 09:58 PM Post #893
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 10321 Joined: 15-November 03 From: Hampshire, UK Member No.: 130	I tried a lovely recorder today - a keyless Marsyas tenor in cherrywood which just fitted perfectly under my hands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) I'm almost definitely going to buy it, but am trying to decide whether to sell my Moeck Rottenburgh or to keep it as a spare. I've been playing in an 8' consort at the the early music course this week and could have done with another tenor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

petrat	Apr 7 2009, 10:10 PM Post #894
Unregistered	With proper contras or just with the funny cubic ones?

katyjay	Apr 7 2009, 10:16 PM Post #895
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 15848 Joined: 13-December 03 From: North Surrey Member No.: 275	QUOTE(petrat @ Apr 7 2009, 11:10 PM) With proper contras or just with the funny cubic ones? Real genuine taller-than-us jobbies - same make as yours, Petrat. Today's fun was a Scarlatti sonata for 3 flutes played on 3 bass recorders and a contra. Fantastic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

anacrusis	Apr 7 2009, 11:54 PM Post #896
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5231 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 4852	ooh, was that the Alessandro Scarlatti one? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Keep the Rotty. You can then give the new one a rest when playing it in, and also go back to it whenever you're on a course and playing far too much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). At least, that's what I did, though my teacher, who is also at Ascot, noticed straight away when my Rotty came out, and said something along the lines of "ew, that one really isn't a patch on your other one, is it?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif).

andante_in_c	Apr 8 2009, 06:47 AM Post #897
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 10321 Joined: 15-November 03 From: Hampshire, UK Member No.: 130	QUOTE(anacrusis @ Apr 8 2009, 12:54 AM) ooh, was that the Alessandro Scarlatti one? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Keep the Rotty. You can then give the new one a rest when playing it in, and also go back to it whenever you're on a course and playing far too much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). At least, that's what I did, though my teacher, who is also at Ascot, noticed straight away when my Rotty came out, and said something along the lines of "ew, that one really isn't a patch on your other one, is it?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). Yes, I can imagine her saying that! I had a lesson with your teacher this week, anacrusis. I'm relieved to find I have no really horrible habits, but have to learn to play without a death-grip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) It's a shame I'm not in Scotland - I'm sure I'd come on in leaps and bounds if I had regular lessons with her. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

anacrusis	Apr 8 2009, 12:04 PM Post #898
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5231 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 4852	I now have to cross Scotland for my lessons with her - but she is sooo worth it, and we always have a good giggle. It's wonderful to have a teacher who can laugh rather than hiding her head in her hands at some of the things I can't do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif), and yes, she manages to make a difference with every lesson, too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). PS do send my greetings if you can (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

jacobvaneyck	Apr 8 2009, 10:13 PM Post #899
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3595 Joined: 20-January 05 Member No.: 2998	QUOTE(petrat @ Apr 7 2009, 11:10 PM) With proper contras or just with the funny cubic ones? Having played the 'funny cubic one' at SRO (Paetzold), I actually think it is quite good. There is no way I could afford a Kung on the pitiful wage I am getting at the moment, though this one belongs to the SRP. QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Apr 8 2009, 07:47 AM) QUOTE(anacrusis @ Apr 8 2009, 12:54 AM) ooh, was that the Alessandro Scarlatti one? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Keep the Rotty. You can then give the new one a rest when playing it in, and also go back to it whenever you're on a course and playing far too much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). At least, that's what I did, though my teacher, who is also at Ascot, noticed straight away when my Rotty came out, and said something along the lines of "ew, that one really isn't a patch on your other one, is it?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). Yes, I can imagine her saying that! I had a lesson with your teacher this week, anacrusis. I'm relieved to find I have no really horrible habits, but have to learn to play without a death-grip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) It's a shame I'm not in Scotland - I'm sure I'd come on in leaps and bounds if I had regular lessons with her. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have her as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But no teacher can improve your playing if you are so out of sorts, like I was in my last lesson with her. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

petrat	Apr 8 2009, 11:05 PM Post #900
Unregistered	QUOTE(neil.clarinet @ Apr 8 2009, 11:13 PM) QUOTE(petrat @ Apr 7 2009, 11:10 PM) With proper contras or just with the funny cubic ones? Having played the 'funny cubic one' at SRO (Paetzold), I actually think it is quite good. There is no way I could afford a Kung on the pitiful wage I am getting at the moment, though this one belongs to the SRP. [ I don't like the Paetzold ones. I find the sound too strong and hooty, (good technical term, that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) and I can't take to the shape. I was so lucky to have been left money by a kind relative. I would never have afforded mine otherwise. It will get lots of use and loving care though.

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