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> Analysis Of 2 Similar Pieces Of Music, for A2 Music Module 5 AQA
IrisH - LoonY
post Jan 23 2006, 11:25 PM
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Well, I need one piece that's written between 1700-1850 and compare it to a piece written AT LEAST 100 years later/earlier etc

E.G. Bach's Violin Concerto in A minor and Dvorak's Violin Concerto in A minor (assuming Bach wrote that concerto in the given time period)

I was thinking maybe the Liszt B minor Sonata along with say the Beethoven Hammerklavier, but would these be difficult to analyse?

Any suggestions welcome

Thanks!
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SteveHopwood
post Jan 24 2006, 12:01 AM
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These dates are virtually forcing you to consider a 20th century piece, IL. Take the Liszt, written in 1854.

Take 100 years from that date and you have 2 years before the birth of Mozart.

Add 100 to it, and you have my birth year. Of course, I could compose you a sonata, but it would be rubbish, trust me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You like piano music. Mozart: 1756-1791. Rachmaninov: 1873-1943.

Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto. How about a conparative analysis of these two works. I imagine there is lots of written material to access to help with this.

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elmo
post Jan 24 2006, 12:38 PM
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I don't have any adivce about pieces, but I would say that if you do a sonata or a concerto, to only analyse one movement from each. It took me ages to analyse first movement Mozart clarinet concerto, and then I had another one to do on top. Also only pick a couple of areas to discuss. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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SuzyMac
post Jan 24 2006, 03:17 PM
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1700-1850.....You have a few choices. Only knowing about piano really, some suggestions...

Take Mozart (1756-1791) you can then look for pieces from (say) 1670-1890 - this can include Pachelbel (1653-1706) for early music, or Rimky-Korsakov or Rach for the later stuff.

Or, Mendelssohn (1809-1847). Take 100 years and you get 1730 (for example) - JSB could fall in here (1685-1750). Or, Scarlatti (D) 1685-1757. Add 100 years and you get around 1950. Tricky, but Shostakovich was 1906-1975.

If you need to know when things were written or when composers were around Click here
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IrisH - LoonY
post Jan 24 2006, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(SteveHopwood @ Jan 24 2006, 12:01 AM) *

Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto.


Didn't Mozart write more than 1 D minor concerto?
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SteveHopwood
post Jan 24 2006, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(IrisH - LoonY @ Jan 24 2006, 05:09 PM) *

QUOTE(SteveHopwood @ Jan 24 2006, 12:01 AM) *

Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto.


Didn't Mozart write more than 1 D minor concerto?

Fairly sure he didn't. In any case, the one I am talking about is K466.

There are wonderful opportunities for comparative analysis between the two pieces. Even better if you can follow elmo's advice to compare a single movement from each concerto - the first movement of each would make for a fabulous comparison.

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IrisH - LoonY
post Jan 24 2006, 10:35 PM
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Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto.


Didn't Mozart write more than 1 D minor concerto?

Fairly sure he didn't. In any case, the one I am talking about is K466.

There are wonderful opportunities for comparative analysis between the two pieces. Even better if you can follow elmo's advice to compare a single movement from each concerto - the first movement of each would make for a fabulous comparison.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm on it!
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SteveHopwood
post Jan 24 2006, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(SteveHopwood @ Jan 24 2006, 12:01 AM) *

Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto.


Didn't Mozart write more than 1 D minor concerto?

Fairly sure he didn't. In any case, the one I am talking about is K466.

There are wonderful opportunities for comparative analysis between the two pieces. Even better if you can follow elmo's advice to compare a single movement from each concerto - the first movement of each would make for a fabulous comparison.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm on it!

Let me know if you need help. I know how to point students in the right direction without providing them with answers they will not understand.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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IrisH - LoonY
post Jan 24 2006, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(SteveHopwood @ Jan 24 2006, 12:01 AM) *

Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto.


Didn't Mozart write more than 1 D minor concerto?

Fairly sure he didn't. In any case, the one I am talking about is K466.

There are wonderful opportunities for comparative analysis between the two pieces. Even better if you can follow elmo's advice to compare a single movement from each concerto - the first movement of each would make for a fabulous comparison.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm on it!

Let me know if you need help. I know how to point students in the right direction without providing them with answers they will not understand.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Thanks! And with Nat's assisstance also, this should be a breeze (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Although...I regret to say I've not heard EITHER concerto
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SteveHopwood
post Jan 24 2006, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(SteveHopwood @ Jan 24 2006, 12:01 AM) *

Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto.


Didn't Mozart write more than 1 D minor concerto?

Fairly sure he didn't. In any case, the one I am talking about is K466.

There are wonderful opportunities for comparative analysis between the two pieces. Even better if you can follow elmo's advice to compare a single movement from each concerto - the first movement of each would make for a fabulous comparison.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm on it!

Let me know if you need help. I know how to point students in the right direction without providing them with answers they will not understand.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Thanks! And with Nat's assisstance also, this should be a breeze (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Although...I regret to say I've not heard EITHER concerto

Maybe I am not remembering correctly but, in a previous forums incarnation I am sure you talked about the Rach D minor - that is why I suggested it.

Never mind if I am wrong; you will enjoy both pieces.

In academic matters, trust Nat. Boy, but she is one clever girl (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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IrisH - LoonY
post Jan 24 2006, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(SteveHopwood @ Jan 24 2006, 12:01 AM) *

Rach composed the third concerto in 1909, so it had to be be later than Mozart's D minor concerto.


Didn't Mozart write more than 1 D minor concerto?

Fairly sure he didn't. In any case, the one I am talking about is K466.

There are wonderful opportunities for comparative analysis between the two pieces. Even better if you can follow elmo's advice to compare a single movement from each concerto - the first movement of each would make for a fabulous comparison.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'm on it!

Let me know if you need help. I know how to point students in the right direction without providing them with answers they will not understand.

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Thanks! And with Nat's assisstance also, this should be a breeze (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Although...I regret to say I've not heard EITHER concerto

Maybe I am not remembering correctly but, in a previous forums incarnation I am sure you talked about the Rach D minor - that is why I suggested it.

Never mind if I am wrong; you will enjoy both pieces.

In academic matters, trust Nat. Boy, but she is one clever girl (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

That was the C minor one you're thinking of! But a study of the D minor would be great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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