Grade 5, Does result affect future opportunities? Options

[MusicalNitWit]

EDIT you are correct - just checked the syllabus and it only mentions treble clef from grade 6 onwards for sightreading - so you can relax violamum

I there a word for being biased against an instrument? Not fair!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[muzikalbadger]

EDIT you are correct - just checked the syllabus and it only mentions treble clef from grade 6 onwards for sightreading - so you can relax violamum

I there a word for being biased against an instrument? Not fair!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Sorry MNW!!! If it makes it easier they are changing the string scales and sightreading from next year - so who knows what that will bring!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[MusicalNitWit]

EDIT you are correct - just checked the syllabus and it only mentions treble clef from grade 6 onwards for sightreading - so you can relax violamum

I there a word for being biased against an instrument? Not fair!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Sorry MNW!!! If it makes it easier they are changing the string scales and sightreading from next year - so who knows what that will bring!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Just saw your location. I'm from Bonnie Cumbernauld so the odds have always been stacked against me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[ViolaMum]

MNW, VM, TDM - what disease do you have?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

OMG Do you know something I don't know?!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Which syllabus are you guys talking about? The one I've been using doesn't mention examined Clef at all!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

muzikalbadger - How come you had to do sight-reading WITH treble clef if it's not on the syllabus?!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[ViolaMum]

Now I'm in a panic - I've had a quick look at the exam syllabus I've been using and couldn't find mention of Treble Clef, then found it mentioned at G6 instead!!! But I cannot find this bl**dy P7 that they keep referring to! WHERE IS IT?!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

The general String bit is Pages 1 and 2, then Violin starts at Page 10 AAAAHHHHHHH

Also where are the Pages 56 etc which they talk refer to in the Aural bit?

I'm def going potty here! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

MNW I blame you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[muzikalbadger]

EDIT you are correct - just checked the syllabus and it only mentions treble clef from grade 6 onwards for sightreading - so you can relax violamum

I there a word for being biased against an instrument? Not fair!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Sorry MNW!!! If it makes it easier they are changing the string scales and sightreading from next year - so who knows what that will bring!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Just saw your location. I'm from Bonnie Cumbernauld so the odds have always been stacked against me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Lol... poor you!!! Im in Bellshill, but my parents are in Stirling so I drive past Cumbernauld most weekends!
You have my sympathies!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

MNW, VM, TDM - what disease do you have?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

OMG Do you know something I don't know?!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Which syllabus are you guys talking about? The one I've been using doesn't mention examined Clef at all!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

muzikalbadger - How come you had to do sight-reading WITH treble clef if it's not on the syllabus?!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

http://www.abrsm.org/regions/fileadmin/use...ements10_02.pdf this has page 6 and 7, not page 1 and 2, and the reason treble clef isn't mentioned is because you won't get it in sightreading until grade 6 - I expect I got it because the examiner knew I was a much higher level, and was doing a viola exam, in order to work towards teaching it properly as I already play violin to beyond grade 8 standard and teach it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This is the full aural syllabus http://www.abrsm.org/regions/fileadmin/use...lComplete11.pdf

Hope this helps! If you have any questions about any of it feel free to pm me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[ViolaMum]

http://www.abrsm.org/regions/fileadmin/use...ements10_02.pdf this has page 6 and 7, not page 1 and 2, and the reason treble clef isn't mentioned is because you won't get it in sightreading until grade 6 - I expect I got it because the examiner knew I was a much higher level, and was doing a viola exam, in order to work towards teaching it properly as I already play violin to beyond grade 8 standard and teach it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This is the full aural syllabus http://www.abrsm.org/regions/fileadmin/use...lComplete11.pdf

Hope this helps! If you have any questions about any of it feel free to pm me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thanks Muzicalbadger. I was actually looking at the first one, but as there were 2 pages on Preview I really did go potty and forgot to check what page number they were!!! (I know - a Maths grad should be good with numbers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) but I've not been the same since having my 2 DSs!!!).

Couldn't find the Aural ones at all though, so that is very useful. I've always gone along with the Hofnote categories without knowing what the ABRSM ones were!! Glad someone out there has their wits about them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[muzikalbadger]

http://www.abrsm.org/regions/fileadmin/use...ements10_02.pdf this has page 6 and 7, not page 1 and 2, and the reason treble clef isn't mentioned is because you won't get it in sightreading until grade 6 - I expect I got it because the examiner knew I was a much higher level, and was doing a viola exam, in order to work towards teaching it properly as I already play violin to beyond grade 8 standard and teach it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This is the full aural syllabus http://www.abrsm.org/regions/fileadmin/use...lComplete11.pdf

Hope this helps! If you have any questions about any of it feel free to pm me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thanks Muzicalbadger. I was actually looking at the first one, but as there were 2 pages on Preview I really did go potty and forgot to check what page number they were!!! (I know - a Maths grad should be good with numbers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) but I've not been the same since having my 2 DSs!!!).

Couldn't find the Aural ones at all though, so that is very useful. I've always gone along with the Hofnote categories without knowing what the ABRSM ones were!! Glad someone out there has their wits about them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Glad it helped (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[SaxLad]

How did you get 18th July - ours is 20th June. Can I transfer to your examiner? I am being serious!!!

As for grade 5, well I suppose it depends on the age of the child at the time. If DS guzzes then he could do it again a year later and get a distinction and still only be 11. Of course a distinction would be marvellous (pigs will fly) but in some ways if DS gets grade 5 then other aspects such as theory cannot be ignored and he may be allowed (if time ever allows) to join ensembles and groups with grade 5. Next exam (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I will make sure he is distinction level. DS goal is currently to play Mozart Concerto in B-flat major for bassoon, which does look very easy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Im kinda worried reading this. I put in for my Grade 8 and havent received a date where I am yet... :/

p.s sorry for the hijack.

[Flossie]

How did you get 18th July - ours is 20th June. Can I transfer to your examiner? I am being serious!!!

As for grade 5, well I suppose it depends on the age of the child at the time. If DS guzzes then he could do it again a year later and get a distinction and still only be 11. Of course a distinction would be marvellous (pigs will fly) but in some ways if DS gets grade 5 then other aspects such as theory cannot be ignored and he may be allowed (if time ever allows) to join ensembles and groups with grade 5. Next exam (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I will make sure he is distinction level. DS goal is currently to play Mozart Concerto in B-flat major for bassoon, which does look very easy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Im kinda worried reading this. I put in for my Grade 8 and havent received a date where I am yet... :/

p.s sorry for the hijack.

I wouldn't worry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Some schools put everyone in at the same time and arrange a special visit from an examiner for this (they need a minimum length of exams to do this, so you can't do it just for yourself unless you intend on taking rather a lot of exams in the same day!), rather than going through the general sessions at one of the exam centres. Special visits get arranged separately, so the dates get allocated separately as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[SaxLad]

How did you get 18th July - ours is 20th June. Can I transfer to your examiner? I am being serious!!!

As for grade 5, well I suppose it depends on the age of the child at the time. If DS guzzes then he could do it again a year later and get a distinction and still only be 11. Of course a distinction would be marvellous (pigs will fly) but in some ways if DS gets grade 5 then other aspects such as theory cannot be ignored and he may be allowed (if time ever allows) to join ensembles and groups with grade 5. Next exam (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I will make sure he is distinction level. DS goal is currently to play Mozart Concerto in B-flat major for bassoon, which does look very easy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Im kinda worried reading this. I put in for my Grade 8 and havent received a date where I am yet... :/

p.s sorry for the hijack.

I wouldn't worry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Some schools put everyone in at the same time and arrange a special visit from an examiner for this (they need a minimum length of exams to do this, so you can't do it just for yourself unless you intend on taking rather a lot of exams in the same day!), rather than going through the general sessions at one of the exam centres. Special visits get arranged separately, so the dates get allocated separately as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

special visit. Might have guessed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[tonedeafmum]

How did you get 18th July - ours is 20th June. Can I transfer to your examiner? I am being serious!!!

As for grade 5, well I suppose it depends on the age of the child at the time. If DS guzzes then he could do it again a year later and get a distinction and still only be 11. Of course a distinction would be marvellous (pigs will fly) but in some ways if DS gets grade 5 then other aspects such as theory cannot be ignored and he may be allowed (if time ever allows) to join ensembles and groups with grade 5. Next exam (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I will make sure he is distinction level. DS goal is currently to play Mozart Concerto in B-flat major for bassoon, which does look very easy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Im kinda worried reading this. I put in for my Grade 8 and havent received a date where I am yet... :/

p.s sorry for the hijack.

I wouldn't worry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Some schools put everyone in at the same time and arrange a special visit from an examiner for this (they need a minimum length of exams to do this, so you can't do it just for yourself unless you intend on taking rather a lot of exams in the same day!), rather than going through the general sessions at one of the exam centres. Special visits get arranged separately, so the dates get allocated separately as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

special visit. Might have guessed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Here at Tonedeaf Towers we are relying on run of the mill Session B and have no idea when Daughter's 'in for it.' I was wondering - do people think it's better having a Special Visit and so knowing the exact date so much earlier? I think Daughter might panic more.

[andante]

Less stressful as a parent, than trying to keep the diary empty / flexible.

Mind you the visits we've had have been in school, so apart from sending them into school with the instrument as normal I don't have to worry about getting them there or accompanists or anything. The only downside is that the results seem to be slower. We waited five weeks for grade 8 clarinet one summer and I was convinced the teacher wasn't phoning as promised because it was bad news, but she was getting as stressed as I was!

[SaxLad]

Less stressful as a parent, than trying to keep the diary empty / flexible.

Mind you the visits we've had have been in school, so apart from sending them into school with the instrument as normal I don't have to worry about getting them there or accompanists or anything. The only downside is that the results seem to be slower. We waited five weeks for grade 8 clarinet one summer and I was convinced the teacher wasn't phoning as promised because it was bad news, but she was getting as stressed as I was!

I only ever did my Grade 3 through the school. I think that if you have a reliable good accompianist and a good teacher then I don't believe it matters whether you go through the school or whether you go outside.

Different things are better for different people (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[ViolaMum]

DS as only done his exams through the Music Trust. They book an ABRSM examiner for the last week of each term (which we like as school isn't doing much and we are always around), they are always held in the Music Room at their offices and the Accompanist is always the same so she gets to know the children and she is very nice (she also teaches theory for the Trust). The results do come back through them so can be a bit slower, but another mum said that she had phoned up to see where they were and they gave her the result over the phone. So I did that this time too although DS didn't want to know until the certificate came. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Works for us. DS knows exactly where, when etc it is going to be so that's something he doesn't have to think about. DH still has to take him though - my nerves would rub off I think! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)