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Buying New Music - Clarinet, Care to comment on my choices????

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Tequila	Jul 30 2009, 11:35 AM Post #16
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3877 Joined: 3-July 08 Member No.: 34208	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 11:48 AM) QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 29 2009, 02:45 PM) 12. Francis Poulenc: Clarinet Sonata (2006 Edition) Considering buying this now as well. I really like the sound of it. 13. Gerald Finzi: Clarinet Concerto Op.31 14. W.A. Mozart: Clarinet Quintet KV 581 (Clarinet/Piano) 12. A 'must play', even though it's not my favourite. Lots of difficult corners, but given practice, you'll do it justice. 13. If you like the Bagatelles, you'll like this, though it'll need a lot of work on both your part and the accompanists part. If you choose to tackle it, give yourself plenty of time. 14. Not quite as good as the sublime Concerto, in my opinion, but still a fine work, and you should enjoy playing it. I think this is well within what you can tackle now Dawn. Re 14 - yes i think so too but isn't there a part of it that can be lifted as a cadenza to use in the adagio movement of the Concerto??? Thought it's something I should have in my "library" though. It's on a par with the Schumann fantasy pieces in the "want to play" stakes. Not at the top but up there in the top few. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) My slight issue with playing concerto/quintet style pieces is teh lack or an Orchestra. The piano is a good stand in but it's not the same timbre and I feel that some if not all pieces set against orchestra sadly lack something (a lot?) in a piano reduction but not many of us have the luxury of Orchestral backing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(lois @ Jul 30 2009, 12:24 PM) I've recently had a splurge on music too. I bought the Poulenc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I'm sure it will go OK with practice though. Also got Bach ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) ) 21 pieces for clarinet, the Schumann Fantasy pieces and a brilliant compilation book. It was only £12 and has stuff by Weber, Brahms, Mendelssohn. It was called Materworks for clarinet or something along those lines. Can't wait to get stuck in at the weekend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I also love the Saint-Saens Sonata. Tricky in places but worth it although I haven't looked at it all yet. Lois Have fun Lois. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clarinet.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) I'm going to be away for a week or two soon so won't place my order till I get back but looking forward to it. This list has been many months in the making. Longlisting and whittling down to shortlist .... and then of course adding a few extras (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

barry-clari	Jul 30 2009, 01:49 PM Post #17
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40656 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(lois @ Jul 30 2009, 12:24 PM) I've recently had a splurge on music too. I bought the Poulenc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I'm sure it will go OK with practice though. Also got Bach ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) ) 21 pieces for clarinet, the Schumann Fantasy pieces and a brilliant compilation book. It was only £12 and has stuff by Weber, Brahms, Mendelssohn. It was called Materworks for clarinet or something along those lines. Can't wait to get stuck in at the weekend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I also love the Saint-Saens Sonata. Tricky in places but worth it although I haven't looked at it all yet. Lois Enjoy! I almost went for the Saint Saens in my recital I'm doing in York, but plumped for Weber no.1 instead. Still might play it somewhere in 2010... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 30 2009, 12:35 PM) Re 14 - yes i think so too but isn't there a part of it that can be lifted as a cadenza to use in the adagio movement of the Concerto??? There is a part, yes, but I'd be inclined not to, in my opinion.

jazzycat	Jul 30 2009, 01:55 PM Post #18
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 13-March 09 Member No.: 58803	I had a spree at musicroom.com a week or so ago... Mozart concerto Bach 21 pieces, trans. Giampieri (I like most of these, but the cello suite transcriptions more than the violin partita ones) Finzi bagatelles Saint-Saens sonata Krommer E flat concerto and the Lloyd Webber Air and Variations (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Am really enjoying the various challenges (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clarinet.gif) Dawn please post on how you get on with the Victorian Kitchen Garden suite - I don't know it at all but several people have said it's very rewarding. I love Frensham Pond but sadly the examiner didn't like it at all...

barry-clari	Jul 30 2009, 02:02 PM Post #19
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40656 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 29 2009, 02:45 PM) 15. Bernhard Crusell: Clarinet Concerto Op.5 (Clarinet/Piano) One to consider for the future along with the other Crusell Concertos 17. Darius Milhaud: Scaramouche (Clarinet and Piano) Love the sound of this. Maybe one for the future though as would in all likelihood be rather a challenge to perfect. 18. Franz Krommer: Concerto For Clarinet In E Flat Op.36 Considering for the future. 19. Robert Schumann: Fantasy Pieces Op.73 (Clarinet/Piano) 15. Yes - go for it Dawn, you won't go a lot wrong with anything Crusell, and they make excellent recital pieces 17. In my opinion, this works better as a saxophone piece - but it's still a fun piece to do on clari, though you're right, it will take work. 18. Much underrated, the Krommer, and I think you'll enjoy it. He also did a concerto for two clarinets, and Appassionata and I are working on the first movement of this, for the Chester forum concert... 19. These are very nice - and well worth working on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

sbhoa	Jul 30 2009, 03:13 PM Post #20
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 18994 Joined: 31-October 03 From: Tameside Member No.: 24	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 03:02 PM) 18. Much underrated, the Krommer, and I think you'll enjoy it. He also did a concerto for two clarinets, and Appassionata and I are working on the first movement of this, for the Chester forum concert... And what about your masterplan for accompanist? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

barry-clari	Jul 30 2009, 03:20 PM Post #21
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40656 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(sbhoa @ Jul 30 2009, 04:13 PM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 03:02 PM) 18. Much underrated, the Krommer, and I think you'll enjoy it. He also did a concerto for two clarinets, and Appassionata and I are working on the first movement of this, for the Chester forum concert... And what about your masterplan for accompanist? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Ah yes, that one... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muahaha.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) goes and finds email inbox (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Tequila	Jul 30 2009, 03:39 PM Post #22
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3877 Joined: 3-July 08 Member No.: 34208	QUOTE(jazzycat @ Jul 30 2009, 02:55 PM) I had a spree at musicroom.com a week or so ago... Mozart concerto Bach 21 pieces, trans. Giampieri (I like most of these, but the cello suite transcriptions more than the violin partita ones) Finzi bagatelles Saint-Saens sonata Krommer E flat concerto and the Lloyd Webber Air and Variations (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Am really enjoying the various challenges (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clarinet.gif) Dawn please post on how you get on with the Victorian Kitchen Garden suite - I don't know it at all but several people have said it's very rewarding. I love Frensham Pond but sadly the examiner didn't like it at all... Enjoy jazzycat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) New music is fun isn't it??? I didn't know the kitchen garden either until it was suggested on a previous thread and I did a little research. I now have it on CD by Emma Johnson (IMG:style_emoticons/default/notworthy.gif) try these youtube links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpzSJK8nSgA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSA_RoAddnQ&NR=1 Think the second is the better of the 2 but it's not complete and there's pluses and minuses of both performances in my humble opinion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Will let you know how I get on. QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 03:02 PM) QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 29 2009, 02:45 PM) 15. Bernhard Crusell: Clarinet Concerto Op.5 (Clarinet/Piano) One to consider for the future along with the other Crusell Concertos 17. Darius Milhaud: Scaramouche (Clarinet and Piano) Love the sound of this. Maybe one for the future though as would in all likelihood be rather a challenge to perfect. 18. Franz Krommer: Concerto For Clarinet In E Flat Op.36 Considering for the future. 19. Robert Schumann: Fantasy Pieces Op.73 (Clarinet/Piano) 15. Yes - go for it Dawn, you won't go a lot wrong with anything Crusell, and they make excellent recital pieces 17. In my opinion, this works better as a saxophone piece - but it's still a fun piece to do on clari, though you're right, it will take work. 18. Much underrated, the Krommer, and I think you'll enjoy it. He also did a concerto for two clarinets, and Appassionata and I are working on the first movement of this, for the Chester forum concert... 19. These are very nice - and well worth working on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks Barry ... The Krommer duet was available on IMSLP. have downloaded it but have not yet looked at it or rustled up an unsuspecting duet partner to spring it on.... I also have the urge to use this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muahaha.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Any glaring omissions in my list????? Can always add them for future splurges (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

barry-clari	Jul 30 2009, 04:30 PM Post #23
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40656 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	Were it me, I'd add the Malcolm Arnold Concerto no. 2 (though it isn't easy), the Bernstein Sonata, something by Mendelssohn, the other Weber clarinet concerto and the Southwold Sonatina by Rae. Amongst others! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

CJB	Jul 30 2009, 04:51 PM Post #24
Prodigy Group: Members Posts: 1963 Joined: 5-July 05 Member No.: 4076	I'd swap the Milhaud ('cos I agree with Barry I prefer it on sax) with his Duo Concertante, not easy it used to be on the G8 syllabus back in the late 80s (ok I admit it when I did it) I also have a real soft spot for the Burgmuller (?sp) Duo I won't comment on the rest as I'd just be quoting Barry's posts with (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) underneath. The Kitchen Garden Suite is a nice audience friendly piece. It isn't overly demanding technically but worth looking at as a whole. Someone has arranged about 4 of the movements for solo clarinet with wind band. I'm not sure it whether it has been published, the conductor I did it with was in the army and I think borrowed it from one of the army's libraries.

barry-clari	Jul 30 2009, 04:52 PM Post #25
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40656 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(jazzycat @ Jul 30 2009, 02:55 PM) I had a spree at musicroom.com a week or so ago... Mozart concerto Bach 21 pieces, trans. Giampieri (I like most of these, but the cello suite transcriptions more than the violin partita ones) Finzi bagatelles Saint-Saens sonata Krommer E flat concerto and the Lloyd Webber Air and Variations (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Enjoy! With the Bach in particular, I'd recommend going through it with a pencil, marking on places to breathe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Tequila	Jul 30 2009, 09:43 PM Post #26
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3877 Joined: 3-July 08 Member No.: 34208	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 05:30 PM) Were it me, I'd add the Malcolm Arnold Concerto no. 2 (though it isn't easy), the Bernstein Sonata, something by Mendelssohn, the other Weber clarinet concerto and the Southwold Sonatina by Rae. Amongst others! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Have to say not so sure on the Arnold Concerto. Wasn't too keen on what I'd heard of Arnold til the Sonatina got me going..... May give it another listen though. Don't know Bernstein Sonata or the Southwold Sonatina <makes note to source these for a listen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) > Same Rae as James Rae of Jazz/sax fame? Think I have the other Weber Concerto <goes to look> ...... ..... <comes back> yes I have - a recent download from IMSLP I have some Mendelshon extracts. There's a piece Oldnotes and I do from grade 4/5? Andante from Konzerstuck. Thankyou. Will bookmark this for future use. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) CJB - Kitchen garden with concert band?...... Now that sounds like fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clarinet.gif) Maybe I could suggest it at ours....... I've seen some good versions of the Weber concertino with concert band backing on YouTube. Maybe I could suggest that too...... via my teacher of course (who's lead clarinet) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I wouldn't be offering for solo though as there are better players (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

laura-clarinet	Jul 31 2009, 02:21 AM Post #27
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: 6-January 08 From: The Emerald City, Scotland Member No.: 22629	Ive not tried those particular peices but I have some of those composers and im sure you'll enjoy learning + playing them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clarinet.gif)

barry-clari	Jul 31 2009, 08:40 AM Post #28
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40656 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 30 2009, 10:43 PM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 05:30 PM) Were it me, I'd add the Malcolm Arnold Concerto no. 2 (though it isn't easy), the Bernstein Sonata, something by Mendelssohn, the other Weber clarinet concerto and the Southwold Sonatina by Rae. Amongst others! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Don't know Bernstein Sonata or the Southwold Sonatina <makes note to source these for a listen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) > Same Rae as James Rae of Jazz/sax fame? Yes, the same Rae : and again I'm playing this in York in November (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Tequila	Jul 31 2009, 10:38 AM Post #29
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3877 Joined: 3-July 08 Member No.: 34208	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 31 2009, 09:40 AM) QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 30 2009, 10:43 PM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 05:30 PM) Were it me, I'd add the Malcolm Arnold Concerto no. 2 (though it isn't easy), the Bernstein Sonata, something by Mendelssohn, the other Weber clarinet concerto and the Southwold Sonatina by Rae. Amongst others! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Don't know Bernstein Sonata or the Southwold Sonatina <makes note to source these for a listen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) > Same Rae as James Rae of Jazz/sax fame? Yes, the same Rae : and again I'm playing this in York in November (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'll look forward to hearing you Barry.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clarinet.gif)

barry-clari	Jul 31 2009, 10:43 AM Post #30
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40656 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 31 2009, 11:38 AM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 31 2009, 09:40 AM) QUOTE(DawnF @ Jul 30 2009, 10:43 PM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Jul 30 2009, 05:30 PM) Were it me, I'd add the Malcolm Arnold Concerto no. 2 (though it isn't easy), the Bernstein Sonata, something by Mendelssohn, the other Weber clarinet concerto and the Southwold Sonatina by Rae. Amongst others! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Don't know Bernstein Sonata or the Southwold Sonatina <makes note to source these for a listen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) > Same Rae as James Rae of Jazz/sax fame? Yes, the same Rae : and again I'm playing this in York in November (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'll look forward to hearing you Barry.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clarinet.gif) thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I'll get some posters to you around the start of September... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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