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| FullofWind |
May 14 2012, 02:16 PM
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| Minstrel |
May 14 2012, 03:22 PM
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| Chris H |
May 14 2012, 03:28 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1613 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Yorkshire Member No.: 6441 |
No show? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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| Listener |
May 14 2012, 04:42 PM
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Large G&T. Keep breathing
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| Louise H |
May 14 2012, 04:50 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1038 Joined: 7-June 06 From: London Member No.: 7092 |
Deep breaths and let it out slowly!
Hope it's not that bad but there seems to be quite a few tricky situations about at the moment... |
| FullofWind |
May 14 2012, 05:29 PM
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Maybe I was just spoiled by the excellent teacher I had. It seems that there are as many nightmare teachers as there are parents!
Present company excluded, of course! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| notmusimum |
May 14 2012, 07:38 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8327 Joined: 23-January 06 Member No.: 5959 |
Maybe I was just spoiled by the excellent teacher I had. It seems that there are as many nightmare teachers as there are parents! Present company excluded, of course! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Not met any nightmare teachers but have met some lazy ones. |
| Scooby Doo |
May 14 2012, 07:53 PM
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C'mon then, what's happened? Your rant kind of stopped short!
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| notmusimum |
May 15 2012, 08:25 AM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8327 Joined: 23-January 06 Member No.: 5959 |
[edited by moderators to remove quote of deleted post]
There are also lots of teachers who are just unable to see the effect their behaviour has on the pupil or parent. I don't need any of those caps as plenty of forum members know, like and respect my daughter. I don't have to prove to someone who is being completely judgemental that the drive for music comes from my child. I am in a nightmare situation with one of daughters teachers. I've never been totally satisfied for lots of reasons but there is little I can do about it. I have discussed it before on the forum and won't go into too much detail. I've always thought they could give more gudance and support in the lesson and have never been toitally convinced by them. I thought it was my problem because one of our other teachers is so fantastic (couldn't imagine anyone better) another is a good teacher and incredibly supportive. The two instruments where my daughter has technical issues the teachers have taken her playing apart and she's grown even though they are not her main instrument. I was still prepared to think that I was being a little unfair on the lesson that wasn't working as well, even though it was on the instrument that got the lions share of the practice and held the most interest. At the beginning of this academic year they did something which generated the nightmare we are now in. It was not in response to anything we've done. Unfortunately the damage caused and the uncertainty created won't go away. They also unwittingly gave us a get out route. It involves having another teacher on the same instrument on an adhoc basis. I can tell you this is not something I wanted to do for lots of reasons. We don't have the money which is a major issue but having had one lesson it's really brought home that my initial suspicions were totally founded. Whilst the vast majority of teachers do their best for their pupils not everyone with the label teacher does. It's not to do with skill or experience it sometimes just a choice they make. In the same way not all parents are pushy/arrogant/unsupportive. For me unsupportive is a new one as it's not somehting anyone who knows me would ever for one second think. I dare say I've been considered pushy in the past, but luckily it has never lasted long as people get to know me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I was so happy when I made that post because I'd just got back from a lesson, that I went in at the end of, to catch my daughter trading 8's with someone I'd never have dreamed of her doing that with. Arrogant ehh? This post has been edited by EdGJ: May 15 2012, 09:06 AM |
| andante |
May 15 2012, 08:52 AM
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Why is it that there are any number of threads dedicated to annoying incidents with parents, but someone dares to try to let off steam about a music teacher in the parents forum and by post 9 there are really spiteful comments by teachers? The OP was very discrete about the problem, but clearly needed to vent. It is a shame that some forum teachers don't show the same restraint. Scooby Doo, Louise H etc were able to be supportive, but it seems some others cannot. One can't help wondering if the unsupportive ones are feeling guilty about the way they treat pupils and their parents.
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| Chris H |
May 15 2012, 09:08 AM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1613 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Yorkshire Member No.: 6441 |
Why is it that there are any number of threads dedicated to annoying incidents with parents, but someone dares to try to let off steam about a music teacher in the parents forum and by post 9 there are really spiteful comments by teachers? The OP was very discrete about the problem, but clearly needed to vent. It is a shame that some forum teachers don't show the same restraint. Scooby Doo, Louise H etc were able to be supportive, but it seems some others cannot. One can't help wondering if the unsupportive ones are feeling guilty about the way they treat pupils and their parents. Hear hear! I don't know what provoked that attack on Notmusimum, but it was totally uncalled for. |
| FullofWind |
May 15 2012, 09:59 AM
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Eek, sorry if I've caused trouble. I didn't want to divulge after it started to get heated on here but thanks for the support. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| Ayshah |
May 15 2012, 10:02 AM
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I am utterly lost! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) What is this about? With the "moderating" its just made it more intriging but still havent a clue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
If we ALL can "rant" about parents why cant we moan about teachers? Come on lets get real there are some seriously c-r-a-p teachers out there. *sigh* |
| Crotchetymum |
May 15 2012, 10:17 AM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2852 Joined: 3-July 08 Member No.: 34190 |
Why is it that there are any number of threads dedicated to annoying incidents with parents, but someone dares to try to let off steam about a music teacher in the parents forum and by post 9 there are really spiteful comments by teachers? The OP was very discrete about the problem, but clearly needed to vent. It is a shame that some forum teachers don't show the same restraint. Scooby Doo, Louise H etc were able to be supportive, but it seems some others cannot. One can't help wondering if the unsupportive ones are feeling guilty about the way they treat pupils and their parents. Hear hear! I don't know what provoked that attack on Notmusimum, but it was totally uncalled for. As my previous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) was deleted (I think I included the offending post) I'll stick it here instead (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) and hope this one stays put (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
| GMc |
May 15 2012, 10:34 AM
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Well, I am the opposite of lost thanks to this thread. So it helped someone!
Sometimes you have to read something from someone else on a topic to make it clear that vascillating oneself is not the answer to a problem situation. Clearly my parent advice to the above is to act - get the money if at all possible and even if you cant, still act. But it wasnt so clear to me in my own situation. We have a "problem" teacher too - nice woman but wrong teacher in this situation and technically no improvements to speak of at over long period. DD is her most advanced pupil. Never a great idea at this age. Very static and its not lack of work, its lack of instruction. DD likes her, loves her dog, likes the lack of rigour in instructions provided, its only a second iinstrument, DD has Aspergers and gets stressed thinking about changes etc etc......and so I have pushed it to the back of my mind. Had a conversation about setting detailed goals short and long term, mentioned Philip Johnson website and books was really useful for other instrument hoping that this would focus both of them and give her a source of information. Increased lesson time. Nothing changed. This post brought the matter back to where it should be - the front of my mind. So have emailed a few people and got a couple of recommendations to suss out. Time for a move but it needs careful research, planning and a long lead in time advertising campaign to get DD on board. |
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