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madbassoonist	Mar 30 2010, 12:21 PM Post #91
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2212 Joined: 23-February 09 From: South Cambs Member No.: 56880	My teacher's lent me a book of seven Grieg pieces, and I've had a go at Arietta, Butterfly (hard!) and Waltz. I attempted Wedding Day at Troldhaugen but have found it impossible, and didn't have the time last week to properly learn a section. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif)

Solari	Mar 30 2010, 12:29 PM Post #92
Unregistered	QUOTE(madbassoonist @ Mar 30 2010, 01:21 PM) My teacher's lent me a book of seven Grieg pieces, and I've had a go at Arietta, Butterfly (hard!) and Waltz. I attempted Wedding Day at Troldhaugen but have found it impossible, and didn't have the time last week to properly learn a section. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif) Are these Lyric Pieces? I'm learning the Arietta too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Not got far to go with it now but it's tricky to get the dynamics in the 5th RH finger without bringing up the inner parts too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif). The Waltz is a great piece too, it's on my "to do" list! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Mad Tom	Mar 30 2010, 12:47 PM Post #93
Unregistered	QUOTE(Solari @ Mar 30 2010, 02:29 PM) QUOTE(madbassoonist @ Mar 30 2010, 01:21 PM) My teacher's lent me a book of seven Grieg pieces, and I've had a go at Arietta, Butterfly (hard!) and Waltz. I attempted Wedding Day at Troldhaugen but have found it impossible, and didn't have the time last week to properly learn a section. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif) Are these Lyric Pieces? I'm learning the Arietta too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Not got far to go with it now but it's tricky to get the dynamics in the 5th RH finger without bringing up the inner parts too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif). The Waltz is a great piece too, it's on my "to do" list! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yes, they are from the Lyric Pieces, and "Wedding Day at Troldhaugen" is amongst the most difficult of all the Lyric pieces. QUOTE(Mini_mo @ Mar 30 2010, 02:05 PM) QUOTE(Panthera @ Mar 30 2010, 12:37 PM) I was wondering whether to learn Ravel Pavane or Debussy Reverie, and missypiano has convinced me to go for the latter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif), but then I looked it up on youtube and found that it sounds even more beautiful on the harp, so I'm now back to being undecided! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Panthera, You must play Reverie on piano as well! I insist (as long as I get to hear it of course!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) There are may more wonderful pieces by Debussy that you could go for on piano. Here are a few that are similar style and/or standard (or not much more difficuilt) to his Reverie or Ravel's Pavane: Tarantelle Valse Romatique Arabesques Prelude or Clair de Lune from Suite Bergamasque Nocturne Danse Bohemienne Anything from Children's Corner Preludes 1: Interrupted serenade, GIil with Flaxen Hair, Minstrels The Images, Estampes, and a few Preludes are rather more challenging, and the Etudes look like more work than they are worth.

Panthera	Mar 30 2010, 01:01 PM Post #94
Prodigy Group: Members Posts: 1076 Joined: 4-April 08 From: London Member No.: 28188	QUOTE(Mad Tom @ Mar 30 2010, 01:47 PM) There are may more wonderful pieces by Debussy that you could go for on piano. Here are a few that are similar style and/or standard (or not much more difficuilt) to his Reverie or Ravel's Pavane: Tarantelle Valse Romatique Arabesques Prelude or Clair de Lune from Suite Bergamasque Nocturne Danse Bohemienne Anything from Children's Corner Preludes 1: Interrupted serenade, GIil with Flaxen Hair, Minstrels The Images, Estampes, and a few Preludes are rather more challenging, and the Etudes look like more work than they are worth. Ooh, thanks, MT. Will have a look/listen at/to these. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I've played the second arabesque and a couple of preludes (Girl with Flaxen Hair, Bruyeres), and am looking for something fairly slow as the last Debussy I played was the Prelude from Pour le Piano so I need a bit of change!

fsharpminor	Mar 30 2010, 01:06 PM Post #95
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 12233 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Wirral (originally Keighley, Yorks) Member No.: 7089	I remember your Minuet from 'Pour le Piano' nicely played at Chester ! The first Arabesque might suit you. Could try Golliwog's Cakewalk if you want something lively, and not too difficult. Or the two Tom mentioned from Preludes Book 1 Sadly I'm going to have to abandon the F#minor Sonata by Clementi, can't understand why , 'cos it should be easy for me , but isn't ! May try the easier D Major, then go back to the F#minor

Panthera	Mar 30 2010, 01:48 PM Post #96
Prodigy Group: Members Posts: 1076 Joined: 4-April 08 From: London Member No.: 28188	QUOTE(fsharpminor @ Mar 30 2010, 02:06 PM) I remember your Minuet from 'Pour le Piano' nicely played at Chester ! The first Arabesque might suit you. Could try Golliwog's Cakewalk if you want something lively, and not too difficult. Or the two Tom mentioned from Preludes Book 1 Sadly I'm going to have to abandon the F#minor Sonata by Clementi, can't understand why , 'cos it should be easy for me , but isn't ! May try the easier D Major, then go back to the F#minor Thanks, f#m. (And that was the Sarabande not Minuet!) Just out of curiousity, have you played most of the pieces out there which are in f# minor? Having listened to the suggestions above, I now have to decide among a dozen pieces rather than just the two I started with (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Decisions, decisions...

fsharpminor	Mar 30 2010, 02:27 PM Post #97
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 12233 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Wirral (originally Keighley, Yorks) Member No.: 7089	QUOTE(Panthera @ Mar 30 2010, 02:48 PM) Thanks, f#m. (And that was the Sarabande not Minuet!) Just out of curiousity, have you played most of the pieces out there which are in f# minor? Having listened to the suggestions above, I now have to decide among a dozen pieces rather than just the two I started with (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Decisions, decisions... Yes of course its the sarabande, with some nice juicy chords ! I dont really have too much repertoire in F#minor. Obviously the 2 Bach WTC ones, Ravels Sonatine which I still struggle with, the nice easy 'Song without Words (Gondola Song). A Capriccio in F#Minor by Mendelssohn (also a struggle). Theres more out there, a Chopin Polonaise and the Fantasia in F#Minor (or is it F Minor). Various sets of Preludes and Preludes and Fugues all have an F#Minor, eg Chopin, Shostakovich (you heard me play the Shost and Bach Preludes), Scriabin etc. The Clementi Sonata, some Scarlatti ones also. No doubt others will help me with ones I forgot, - maybe I should start an f#minor thread ! Then other people will start their favourite keys as well !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Mad Tom	Mar 30 2010, 02:56 PM Post #98
Unregistered	QUOTE(fsharpminor @ Mar 30 2010, 03:06 PM) I remember your Minuet from 'Pour le Piano' nicely played at Chester ! The first Arabesque might suit you. Could try Golliwog's Cakewalk if you want something lively, and not too difficult. Or the two Tom mentioned from Preludes Book 1 Shame about my on-line spelling. Sorry! QUOTE(fsharpminor @ Mar 30 2010, 03:06 PM) Sadly I'm going to have to abandon the F#minor Sonata by Clementi, can't understand why , 'cos it should be easy for me , but isn't ! May try the easier D Major, then go back to the F#minor It is because Clementi was a second rate Hack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I can't see the point in learning any Sonata by Clementi while there are still any by Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Liszt, Scriabin, or Prokofiev that you can't yet play.

fsharpminor	Mar 30 2010, 03:00 PM Post #99
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 12233 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Wirral (originally Keighley, Yorks) Member No.: 7089	(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif) I might have expected that from you ! Well I can and have played all the Haydn, Mozart and Beethovens (not very well !), but certainly not the Liszt , Scriabin or Prokofievs ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Mini_mo	Mar 30 2010, 03:24 PM Post #100
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: 21-July 09 From: Beds/Herts Member No.: 71085	Sorry in advance for lazy typing but posting on an iPhone is rubbish! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Panthera I agree with mad tom, Debussy has so much wonderful music and it would be perfect for you to play. The obvious one is clare de lune as it's such a beautiful piece, as is arabesque no.1 but I also like the snow is dancing and reflections dans l'eau, also poissons d'or. His pieces are so full of emotion that I had better bring a big man size box of Kleenex to hear you play them! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Invidia	Mar 31 2010, 12:13 AM Post #101
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 570 Joined: 29-June 07 From: London Member No.: 12564	QUOTE(Mad Tom @ Mar 30 2010, 01:47 PM) The Images, Estampes, and a few Preludes are rather more challenging, and the Etudes look like more work than they are worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) the Etudes are amazing! saying that when I first came across them 5/6 years ago I thought hang on a minute did Debussy's illness kill his music? but yeah I do love them now. They are all pretty tricky though so not something you can learn "just for the sake of doing some Debussy" which seems to be the main reason a lot of people learn anything later than Chopin/Liszt which I find a real shame.

davidmackay	Mar 31 2010, 09:55 AM Post #102
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 347 Joined: 27-May 09 From: St Albans Member No.: 66535	Currently working on Jean Philippe Rameau's menuet en rondo. There is very little direction in the piece and having now broken the back of it (i.e. I can mostly hit the right notes) my teacher suggested introducing some directions e.g. ties, staccato etc. The piece is transformed! Now all I need to do is unlearn the way I've learned and re-learn the new way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Also working on a little jazz piece by Matyas Seiber. This one has taken me a long time to get close to acceptable. But well worth it. Again, teacher suggested a few improvements last night and the piece just comes to life. Piano teachers are GREAT!

Solari	Mar 31 2010, 10:20 AM Post #103
Unregistered	QUOTE(davidmackay @ Mar 31 2010, 10:55 AM) Piano teachers are GREAT! So we can look forward to your new pieces on the 11th then? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

davidmackay	Mar 31 2010, 12:24 PM Post #104
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 347 Joined: 27-May 09 From: St Albans Member No.: 66535	QUOTE(Solari @ Mar 31 2010, 11:20 AM) So we can look forward to your new pieces on the 11th then? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's in the diary. Haven't decided what I'm going to play yet. Maybe I should otherwise it'll be a car crash.

Solari	Mar 31 2010, 12:30 PM Post #105
Unregistered	QUOTE(davidmackay @ Mar 31 2010, 01:24 PM) QUOTE(Solari @ Mar 31 2010, 11:20 AM) So we can look forward to your new pieces on the 11th then? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's in the diary. Haven't decided what I'm going to play yet. Maybe I should otherwise it'll be a car crash. I don't know how it's come around so quickly - I know that I'll probably stumble through a few parts but hey, it's not a formal concert so who cares! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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