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| echelon |
May 1 2008, 05:20 PM
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I've just started learning the viola. I'm Grade 6 flute and Grade 4 piano already.
I've joined an amateur orchestra and I'd like to know about what level (grade standard) I'd need to be in order to move over to the strings section. I'm having lessons and am enjoying learning - in spite of the alto clef! The standard of players in the orchestra is variable, but I don't really want to look like an idiot by being unable to play anything. I was watching the viola players last week and they didn't seem to move out of first position at all. Any opinions or suggestions? |
| elisabeth_rb |
May 1 2008, 05:29 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1383 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Sheffield, UK Member No.: 3400 |
To be honest, it depends a lot on how much time you're able to put in to it. Of course, having a musical background is great and will help a lot (and alto clef isn't that bad.....), but strings are a totally different thing to both piano and flute - as you've no doubt discovered already. Finding the note is different from 'just' pressing the key and can take a lot of practise.
I think your best bet is to talk to people in the section you're interested in as well as those who run the orchy you're with. They'll be in the best position to advise you. Congrats on taking up viola, btw! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
| Minstrel |
May 1 2008, 05:36 PM
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My guess is that they will welcome you with open arms as soon as they get wind of the fact you are a viola player!
Make sure you are comfortable making a good, clear sound, playing in tune and sightreading fairly fluently before you move over to the 'dark side'. That way you will enjoy the experience more and, importantly, be able to make a good contribution to your section right from the start. |
| echelon |
May 2 2008, 11:29 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I can only manage one lesson a fortnight due to home committments, so it's kind of frustrating! There's only three viola players in the orchestra and two of them don't seem to play much.
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| Devil_Fiddler |
May 2 2008, 11:45 AM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2119 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Birmingham, UK Member No.: 5039 |
Would you be able to talk to one of the viola players and ask them about playing and maybe ask if you can have a look at their music?
Good luck with viola though, hope you get much joy from it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| echelon |
May 2 2008, 04:11 PM
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Yes, I might very well do that. I was peeping over their shoulders last night as the woodwind section was sitting behind them. I saw a lot of semiquavers and didn't look much after that!!!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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| elisabeth_rb |
May 3 2008, 03:55 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1383 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Sheffield, UK Member No.: 3400 |
Oh semiquavers are OK - as long as they're all on the same few notes!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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| echelon |
May 6 2008, 04:10 PM
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Yeah, I never thought of that! good point! My optimism remains intact! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| maya3 |
May 6 2008, 06:05 PM
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i think its best to ask the conductor/person who organises it what standard the pieces are. obviously being grade 6 flute wont really help with the viola technique (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . if the pieces are too difficult then its always something to work towards.
however, saying that i joined an orchestra on viola a week after i started learning. |
| ArchedEdge |
May 7 2008, 03:39 PM
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There aren't many viola players around, so normally there's a demand for them
At my school, my teacher doesn't really care about the fact that I only started a while ago and can barely learn to play. And seeing as you already play instruments, you should be able to learn the viola part for the orchestra fairly quickly and be able to play along after a bit of practise, regardless of the fact that you might not totally get all the notes you're playing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
| echelon |
May 11 2008, 04:44 PM
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Holy Muffins!!!! A week after starting??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
That's good going! |
| Matt Molloy |
May 11 2008, 06:16 PM
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Holy Muffins!!!! A week after starting??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That's good going! Holy Muffins?!?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/woot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif) I've never heard that before. Love it! Cheers, Matt. (Whose vocabulary is expanding all the time.) |
| maya3 |
May 11 2008, 08:49 PM
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Holy Muffins!!!! A week after starting??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That's good going! yes it was, but i did have my grade 8 violin so it really was only a question of learning the clef. and i have my little tricks for reading it so i ahve very few problems (as long as i start on the right note) x |
| AnnaPianna |
May 12 2008, 12:48 PM
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Yey, we play the same instruments!!
Isn't alto clef a ######?!! |
| elisabeth_rb |
May 12 2008, 09:54 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1383 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Sheffield, UK Member No.: 3400 |
Isn't alto clef a ######?!! No, you just need to get used to it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I struggle with bass clef, but I know I just need time and work on it. |
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