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> Recorder Music
andante_in_c
post May 9 2006, 10:35 PM
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I'm very intrigued that it's actually incomprehensible... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


It's also indescribable, and I can't do a quick scan of it or I'd infringe the copyright. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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sarah-flute
post May 9 2006, 10:36 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Crumbs. Indescribable and incomprehensible... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I'd rather you than me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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andante_in_c
post May 9 2006, 10:41 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Crumbs. Indescribable and incomprehensible... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I'd rather you than me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Probably not me either. I should have taken notice of the rating on the Moeck (publisher) website, which gave it a 5 - the most difficult rating. But I was lulled into a false sense of security by its being on the Performers' Certificate list. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I've found about 4 conventionally written notes on the first two pages. The rest are multiphonics and strange symbols. The music is written on two staves - one for recorder, and one for voice, although the voice is articulating nonsense syllables rather than singing in this section. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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sarah-flute
post May 9 2006, 10:44 PM
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I've found about 4 conventionally written notes on the first two pages.

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Good grief, that sounds insane (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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anacrusis
post May 9 2006, 11:24 PM
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My teacher lent me the music for a piece by Maki Ishi, called Black Intention, which sounds a bit like that. He'd let me borrow a CD of some avant-garde music to try to inspire me over the Linde piece I'd been bellyaching over, and thought I ought to see what the player was doing. It includes two recorders at once, singing and playing, mad notes and bits repeated so fast you can't see the dots...another one, called Fragmente, by Makoto Shinohara, has a lot of symbols not known to me. Thank goodness my teacher isn't expecting me to try to learn it all!
One of the things which does bother me is the number of descriptions and instructions needed to learn the music - I found learning the Haverkate piece beastly because of that, when really it wasn't so very hard to play once the motor memory could take over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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jo.clarinet
post May 10 2006, 05:17 AM
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Listened to a masterclass with John Turner and the pupil was doing "The Fly"- apparently its a diploma piece - it definitley needed flutter tonguing. It was out of a set of studies - haiku studies?
I'm sure that someone can tell us the name of the pieces if we wait long enough.
It was very fast and very impressive! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's from 'Four Haiku' by Nicholas Marshall, in 'Pieces for Solo Recorder, vol 1' (Forsyth, ed. John Turner). All three of my pupils who have taken the DipABRSM played these as part of their programme. They're excellent pieces - I really like them - but apart from the tiny bit of flutter-tonguing in The Fly they don't use any modern techniques, so they're probably not the sort of thing the OP is looking for!
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benjaminja
post May 10 2006, 06:41 AM
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I took delivery today of a piece for bass recorder called The Voice of the Crocodile. I don't even understand the first two pages, let alone have a chance of playing them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Excellent. I have a couple of recordings of this. The shouting made me jump first time I listened to it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Are they commercially-produced recordings, and, if so, who's playing?

Yes, one is on a CD called Recorderist and features Pete Rose. The other is played by Benjamin Thorn himself and is on a CD called Songs of Love and Marriage (which I had to order from Australia).
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andante_in_c
post May 10 2006, 07:45 AM
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Thanks for that, benjaminja. I've just found that you can listen to the first two pages and a bit here. It gives me a chance to hear what it's supposed to sound like, but I can't imagine myself performing it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I'm not sure how well it would work with a female voice.

And as for the next (conventionally-notated) page. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I might be able to play it (in time), but I'm not sure I could ever sing it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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sarah-flute
post May 10 2006, 11:23 AM
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Just listening.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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anacrusis
post May 10 2006, 03:27 PM
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IrisH - LoonY
post May 10 2006, 04:37 PM
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Listened to a masterclass with John Turner and the pupil was doing "The Fly"- apparently its a diploma piece - it definitley needed flutter tonguing. It was out of a set of studies - haiku studies?
I'm sure that someone can tell us the name of the pieces if we wait long enough.
It was very fast and very impressive! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I saw him do the very same! the girl who played it was VERY good!!

Did this happen to be at SRP playday in Stretford back in October?

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Thanks for that, benjaminja. I've just found that you can listen to the first two pages and a bit here. It gives me a chance to hear what it's supposed to sound like, but I can't imagine myself performing it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I'm not sure how well it would work with a female voice.

And as for the next (conventionally-notated) page. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I might be able to play it (in time), but I'm not sure I could ever sing it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) THAT IS SO WIERD!
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benjaminja
post May 10 2006, 06:58 PM
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Yep, that's the one! I quite like it, actually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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IrisH - LoonY
post May 10 2006, 07:19 PM
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Yep, that's the one! I quite like it, actually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I like it too, I'd love to see the music!
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benjaminja
post May 11 2006, 06:04 PM
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Just noticed it is also on the FRSM Recorder syllabus...
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Alison
post May 12 2006, 09:08 AM
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Thanks for that, benjaminja. I've just found that you can listen to the first two pages and a bit here.


I can't - keep getting an error message "file path not found" or something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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