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[Jacobi]

Kenm I just wanted to say:
your posts always bring lots of interesting/useful information, I have to admit sometimes a little technical for my still 'young brain' (musically and as a violin/double bass player not as in age (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) but nevertheless I always like reading your posts, thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thanks.gif)

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I find your posts are always interesting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



This site looks relevant--plus there are videos to show you/let you listen

[jojo]

This site looks relevant--plus there are videos to show you/let you listen

thanks Jacobi,
I remember looking at this site a LONG time ago (ie 2 to 3 years ago), thanks for 'bringing it back' to my attention!
the first bowing it talks about, the 'detache'' it gives the Kreutzer n.2 to practice it. This is what my teacher gave me to practice, I have to practice it dividing the bow in 3 parts (in this site it suggest two part, tip to middle and frog to middle), so my teacher wants me to practice it from tip of bow to 1/3 or the bow, then in the middle 3rd of the bow then from frog to 1/3 (if it makes sense). He also wants me to practice it first all notes a different bow (so detached:up bow then down the up etc etc) then to do 'bowing variations' so for every group of 4 semiquavers: first 2 notes slurred 2nd 2 notes detached, then 1st note detached, middle 2 slurred and last note detached then finally first 2 notes detached and last 2 notes slurred.
then to finish off he wants me to practice it with the bowing in the 'opposite direction' so if the first bar normally starts with a down bow, he wants me to start with an up bow ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

I have been doing this Kreutzer for 6 months now, I have grown quite 'attached to it' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[miffy]

This site looks relevant--plus there are videos to show you/let you listen

thanks Jacobi,
I remember looking at this site a LONG time ago (ie 2 to 3 years ago), thanks for 'bringing it back' to my attention!
the first bowing it talks about, the 'detache'' it gives the Kreutzer n.2 to practice it. This is what my teacher gave me to practice, I have to practice it dividing the bow in 3 parts (in this site it suggest two part, tip to middle and frog to middle), so my teacher wants me to practice it from tip of bow to 1/3 or the bow, then in the middle 3rd of the bow then from frog to 1/3 (if it makes sense). He also wants me to practice it first all notes a different bow (so detached:up bow then down the up etc etc) then to do 'bowing variations' so for every group of 4 semiquavers: first 2 notes slurred 2nd 2 notes detached, then 1st note detached, middle 2 slurred and last note detached then finally first 2 notes detached and last 2 notes slurred.
then to finish off he wants me to practice it with the bowing in the 'opposite direction' so if the first bar normally starts with a down bow, he wants me to start with an up bow ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

I have been doing this Kreutzer for 6 months now, I have grown quite 'attached to it' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's a funny coincidence - I've spent most of the day playing Kreutzer 2!!
Did my scales & acrobatics but then didn't have any heart for my pieces today with my little furry boy gone, so I ended up doing this study and it's variations for the first time in about 20 years.
Very levelling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Debra]

Hi miffy,


I,m just starting playing the piano, maybe thinking of doing the exams, but i.m not sure yet!! Have not got a teacher yet either!!!

Violin books you where asking about are:
1. Practicing the violin mentally and physically (L. Kievman) --- this is actually left hand ang right arm.
2. Bogentechnik ( casorti) - all about the bow really.

But, i would not buy them till you have a look at them first (incase you don't like them!!!!).

I'm sure there are others as well.

Sorry, ----but i don't really know what grade you are on, so you maywell know this already!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

[miffy]

Typed yp a long reply then everything got stuck and I lost it!!

Anyway - no, I haven't heard of either of those books. I like to read different takes on the same theme - keeps your mind open!

The two books I love are -

Carl Flesch - The Art of violin Playing books 1&2 (and there's his Scale System for actually playing)

Ivan Galamian - Principles of Violin Playing and Teaching

Hope your piano goes well!

[Debra]

Yes, thats exactly it! ---- i also like reading different takes on stuff! You have hit the nail on the head----or there abouts. I like this flexible approach.

Mind you i'm not sure yet, how i will incorporate the bow into my piano playing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I'l have a think and see what i can come up with. You never know i may be famous one day...........