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| sneekymum |
Sep 28 2006, 09:31 AM
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Inspired by another thread where someone mentioned the difficulty of remembering what the Italian words mean I thought I'd share two I can help with...
Andante - I was told by my teacher to think of "holding hands" - "handante" while walking = at a walking pace. Legato - think "leg wax"= smoothly (my apologies to any Italian people reading this) Can anyone add to this tiny list? |
| Charlies Aunt |
Sep 28 2006, 09:41 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 896 Joined: 12-July 06 From: moo moo land Member No.: 7255 |
Inspired by another thread where someone mentioned the difficulty of remembering what the Italian words mean I thought I'd share two I can help with... Andante - I was told by my teacher to think for "holding hands" - "handante" while walking = at a walking pace. Legato - think "leg wax"= smoothly (my apologies to any Italian people reading this) Can anyone add to this tiny list? Staccato- short and detached- think "detached house" Legato- smooth and joined- think "terraced houses" (Dotted crotchet- think "house and garage") Fortissimo-loud, but not as loud as forte- think "forty something" |
| sbhoa |
Sep 28 2006, 11:14 AM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18913 Joined: 31-October 03 From: Tameside Member No.: 24 |
Isn't fortissimo louder than forte?
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| Dulciana |
Sep 28 2006, 11:47 AM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5718 Joined: 11-January 06 Member No.: 5811 |
You can often make an educated guess at the main word if you remember the following (and if you have a basic understanding of Latin - that very under-rated subject! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ). Looking at the score and hearing it in your head also helps sometimes in making a reasonable guess.
-issimo means very something poco... means a little something -ando is the Italian equivalent of -ing - so it's "doing something progressive" instruction rather than being a basic indication of tempo - i.e calando, accellerando, etc. -etto means less so than the word would mean without the -etto at the end. con means with (so the next word is a noun) -ato is a past participle (the English word would end in -ed) I'm sure there are more generalisations - that's what occurs to me now. What really stumps me is the German words! How can you remember something that you can't even pronounce! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
| Pixie*Porsche |
Sep 28 2006, 12:06 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2687 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 6685 |
I am italian!! It's poulenc with his french thats the problem....and don't get me started on the german words!!
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| Roseau |
Sep 28 2006, 12:26 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5780 Joined: 29-January 06 Member No.: 6007 |
When I was in the sixth form doing A level French I used to teach the piano to the daughter of one of my mother's friends. She was very impressed that I could speak French and Italian!
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| JohnS |
Sep 28 2006, 01:09 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1554 Joined: 14-August 05 From: CV11 Member No.: 4453 |
One of my pupil's parents made me laugh inside a few months ago. I was testing the child's knowledge of Grade 1 Italian words and asked "cantabile." He said that he didn't know you pronounced it like that. He said "cant-a-bile" as it rhymes with "singing style"! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Allegro: popular car when I was younger and it sort of went fast. Allegretto: an estate allegro so it goes a bit slower. |
| salrec |
Sep 28 2006, 01:27 PM
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For lento, one of my daughters always thinks of lentils swimming slowly around the soup . . .
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| Charlies Aunt |
Sep 28 2006, 01:49 PM
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| joyjoy |
Sep 28 2006, 01:55 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1326 Joined: 5-April 04 Member No.: 912 |
When you come across 'moto' try thinking of the phrase 'Hello Moto' that often appears in a sponsor for films on TV. I tell my students to think of 'Hello moto', then think that is it normally a flip phone - therefore, they think of movement! Goes around the houses but it works!
Also, Giocoso - think of a pet, then think playful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
| fsharpminor |
Sep 28 2006, 02:46 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12234 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Wirral (originally Keighley, Yorks) Member No.: 7089 |
For years I used to think 'simile' meant 'smile' !
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| Reverie |
Sep 28 2006, 04:10 PM
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One of my pupil's parents made me laugh inside a few months ago. I was testing the child's knowledge of Grade 1 Italian words and asked "cantabile." He said that he didn't know you pronounced it like that. He said "cant-a-bile" I used to think that's how it was pronounced (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The real way sounds much nicer though. |
| lizbun |
Sep 28 2006, 04:57 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4772 Joined: 11-July 06 From: somewhere Member No.: 7250 |
I only know 'allegro' and 'largo' and 'dolce'
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| Rosemary7391 |
Sep 28 2006, 06:58 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7834 Joined: 18-June 06 From: Durham Member No.: 7195 |
It helps if you learn spanish. They're quite similar.
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| La_Chopiniste_ |
Sep 28 2006, 08:48 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2142 Joined: 13-November 05 From: Cairo, Egypt Member No.: 5249 |
Inspired by another thread where someone mentioned the difficulty of remembering what the Italian words mean I thought I'd share two I can help with... I think that was me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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