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sarah123
post Jun 14 2009, 10:11 PM
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Erm... does anyone know whether my new recorder is varnished or not? My guess is not, but it's very shiny so I'm not 100% sure about that and I don't want to risk putting oil on the outside if it is varnished. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

It's one of these.

I'll just do the inside for now.
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post Jun 15 2009, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(sarah123 @ Jun 14 2009, 10:11 PM) *

Erm... does anyone know whether my new recorder is varnished or not? My guess is not, but it's very shiny so I'm not 100% sure about that and I don't want to risk putting oil on the outside if it is varnished. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

It's one of these.

I'll just do the inside for now.


You shouldn't need to apply anything to the outside for a very, very long time :-)

However, I would use a microfibre cloth to wipe the exterior after every practice.

HTH
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post Jun 15 2009, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(earlymusicconnect @ Jun 15 2009, 09:26 AM) *

QUOTE(sarah123 @ Jun 14 2009, 10:11 PM) *

Erm... does anyone know whether my new recorder is varnished or not? My guess is not, but it's very shiny so I'm not 100% sure about that and I don't want to risk putting oil on the outside if it is varnished. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

It's one of these.

I'll just do the inside for now.


You shouldn't need to apply anything to the outside for a very, very long time :-)

However, I would use a microfibre cloth to wipe the exterior after every practice.

HTH


Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I've just finished de-oiling them all now. I'm amazed how much olivewood seems to come to life with olive oil! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 15 2009, 04:23 PM
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Moek (ok spelt that wrong but don't want to look it up as that would mean going close to websites that are too tempting!) sell an anticondensing fluid that you put a couple of drops down the windway of the instrument. Seems to help a little and can be used on both plastic and wood.

For plastic instruments very very very dilute washing up liquid works really well......I have a suspicion that is what the Moek solution is but I can't bring myself to use fairy liquid on my wooden instruments!


Thank you CJB

When you say very dilute, can you be a bit more precise? One part washing up liquid to how many parts water?

I think like you I would only risk it on plastic recorders!
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Moek (ok spelt that wrong but don't want to look it up as that would mean going close to websites that are too tempting!) sell an anticondensing fluid that you put a couple of drops down the windway of the instrument. Seems to help a little and can be used on both plastic and wood.

For plastic instruments very very very dilute washing up liquid works really well......I have a suspicion that is what the Moek solution is but I can't bring myself to use fairy liquid on my wooden instruments!


Thank you CJB

When you say very dilute, can you be a bit more precise? One part washing up liquid to how many parts water?

I think like you I would only risk it on plastic recorders!


I've tended to use about 1 or 2 drops in a sink of luke warm water then totally immerse the recorder in the water. I haven't done this for a while as it was mostly my old Aulos bass that water logged continuously. I now play much more on my Dolmetsch Nova bass which has a more strident tone and is direct blown so a lot easier to keep clear.
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:59 PM
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Just be aware that anyone using the sucking back method of clearing a recorder will get a horrible taste in their mouths from using washing up liquid....the same goes for the proprietary anticondens mixes sold by recorder makers, which are also used in the just in the windway of even wooden recorders. I sent mine for servicing and they put the stuff down there unasked, bleaaaaargh.
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Just be aware that anyone using the sucking back method of clearing a recorder will get a horrible taste in their mouths from using washing up liquid....the same goes for the proprietary anticondens mixes sold by recorder makers, which are also used in the just in the windway of even wooden recorders. I sent mine for servicing and they put the stuff down there unasked, bleaaaaargh.


I agree completely - 1-2 drops in a sink doesn't leave a taste. I hate the anticondens taste as well and only use it if I'm having real problems with condensation.
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post Jun 16 2009, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(anacrusis @ Jun 15 2009, 11:59 PM) *

Just be aware that anyone using the sucking back method of clearing a recorder will get a horrible taste in their mouths from using washing up liquid....the same goes for the proprietary anticondens mixes sold by recorder makers, which are also used in the just in the windway of even wooden recorders. I sent mine for servicing and they put the stuff down there unasked, bleaaaaargh.


Ah, that could have been what the horrible taste was last time mine came back from Mollenhauer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ill.gif)
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Quite likely Sarah - the only thing I wasn't happy about with the service Mollenhauer did on my descant was the funny taste. I put it down to the oil they had used on it (which struck me as strange as the notes that came with the recorder told me not to oil a wax impregnated instrument) but with hindsight it may well have been anti condense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ill.gif)
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post Jun 25 2009, 08:19 PM
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Two questions today...

1) When playing a recorder one-handed (as in one in each hand), is it normal for it to hurt your little finger or am I probably doing something wrong? I have quite weak and, I think, slightly double-jointed little fingers which often lock up when playing octaves on the piano or 4th finger on the fiddle.

2) Can anyone think of any music I can download which would be suitable for two trebles, descants or one of each? It doesn't have to be recorder music, just something with two easy parts in a suitable range - I've got out my old five-finger-position piano books at the moment and was all excited about learning twinkle twinkle little star then realised I couldn't do the A. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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QUOTE(sarah123 @ Jun 25 2009, 08:19 PM) *

Two questions today...

1) When playing a recorder one-handed (as in one in each hand), is it normal for it to hurt your little finger or am I probably doing something wrong? I have quite weak and, I think, slightly double-jointed little fingers which often lock up when playing octaves on the piano or 4th finger on the fiddle.

2) Can anyone think of any music I can download which would be suitable for two trebles, descants or one of each? It doesn't have to be recorder music, just something with two easy parts in a suitable range - I've got out my old five-finger-position piano books at the moment and was all excited about learning twinkle twinkle little star then realised I couldn't do the A. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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Don't know whether this will be useful but if you go to www.janwolters.nl you'll find some folk songs with two parts that are for recorders and some for recorder/flute but both parts OK for recorder range (Scarborough Fair, Barbara Allen, Foggy Dew, etc.). I stress this is real beginner's stuff -- but as you said "easy parts"...

Hope it's of some use,

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Thanks, elephant. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Reading back over what I'd written, I don't think I made myself very clear. I'm looking for music with two parts for one person playing two recorders. So descant range seems to be G-D ish and treble is C-G ish (hence why I've been trying five-finger piano pieces).
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post Jul 4 2009, 12:05 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/woot.gif)(IMG:style_emoticons/default/woot.gif)(IMG:style_emoticons/default/woot.gif)

anacrusis and family are spending a weekend at Brinkburn Priory, at the music festval: harpsidoc was tuning for Red Priest, and of course I had to come along for the trip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). That meant the offsprogs had to come too, poor things: they have had rather too much exposure to baroque music and normally would run a mile in the opposite direction to any concert we'd go to, but this group is tolerable even for them. Mind you, it was a Bach programme, and the second piece turned out to be the slow movement of the Bach flute sonata I'd played for my LGSMD...that one did stretch their tolerance to the limit, I will admit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif).

What playing...basically a Bach programme this time, and absolutely fantastic as ever. One item included Badinerie, and the movement which comes before it, setting us all off in glggles as the theme tune to Fawlty Towers suddenly emerged from it all. There was the usual mix of dramatic entrances, wild costumes and quirky playing, but this lot still manages to pull it all off without appearing contrived. Probably because they're such outstanding musicians....

Today we get to hear a family concert, just Piers Adams and his harpsichordist, before heading back up to Edinburgh where I get to come back to earth for another week's work before my hols start...
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QUOTE(anacrusis @ Jul 4 2009, 01:05 PM) *

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anacrusis and family are spending a weekend at Brinkburn Priory, at the music festval: harpsidoc was tuning for Red Priest, and of course I had to come along for the trip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). That meant the offsprogs had to come too, poor things: they have had rather too much exposure to baroque music and normally would run a mile in the opposite direction to any concert we'd go to, but this group is tolerable even for them. Mind you, it was a Bach programme, and the second piece turned out to be the slow movement of the Bach flute sonata I'd played for my LGSMD...that one did stretch their tolerance to the limit, I will admit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif).

What playing...basically a Bach programme this time, and absolutely fantastic as ever. One item included Badinerie, and the movement which comes before it, setting us all off in glggles as the theme tune to Fawlty Towers suddenly emerged from it all. There was the usual mix of dramatic entrances, wild costumes and quirky playing, but this lot still manages to pull it all off without appearing contrived. Probably because they're such outstanding musicians....

Today we get to hear a family concert, just Piers Adams and his harpsichordist, before heading back up to Edinburgh where I get to come back to earth for another week's work before my hols start...


Lucky anacrusis.

Envy, envy, ENVY!!!

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QUOTE(anacrusis @ Jul 4 2009, 01:05 PM) *

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anacrusis and family are spending a weekend at Brinkburn Priory, at the music festval: harpsidoc was tuning for Red Priest, and of course I had to come along for the trip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). That meant the offsprogs had to come too, poor things: they have had rather too much exposure to baroque music and normally would run a mile in the opposite direction to any concert we'd go to, but this group is tolerable even for them. Mind you, it was a Bach programme, and the second piece turned out to be the slow movement of the Bach flute sonata I'd played for my LGSMD...that one did stretch their tolerance to the limit, I will admit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif).

What playing...basically a Bach programme this time, and absolutely fantastic as ever. One item included Badinerie, and the movement which comes before it, setting us all off in glggles as the theme tune to Fawlty Towers suddenly emerged from it all. There was the usual mix of dramatic entrances, wild costumes and quirky playing, but this lot still manages to pull it all off without appearing contrived. Probably because they're such outstanding musicians....

Today we get to hear a family concert, just Piers Adams and his harpsichordist, before heading back up to Edinburgh where I get to come back to earth for another week's work before my hols start...


Emsoboe will be so jealous! she loves Piers Adams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You would have had no problem persuading her to come on the trip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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