Car Scrappage Scheme Options

[mwl1]

What do folk think of the new "car scrappage scheme"? I think that this thinly disguised "environmental measure" is actually an attempt to give the ailing car industry a boost. If it's an environmental measure, presumably the extra new cars demanded by the public will need to be made in a super-green way. Likewise, the scrap metal will have to be composted for the sake of protecting the planet. Hang on, metal isn't bio-degradable!

So what do we think? I saw about 50 cars on the way home tonight that would be crushed under the new scheme, and they were perfectly good and not outrageously polluting. Indeed, they didn't even appear that old! Surely scrapping them and replacing them is not good for the environment? And similarly, I hope they don't start destroying classic / future classic cars! If I can't have a Citroen 2CV when I'm older because they've all been scrapped, I'll be cross!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Please understand, I care deeply about the environment, but I don't think they've thought this one through...

*The 2CV thing is serious. I've always wanted one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

[Miss Ross]

Hopefully there'll just be fewer cars and therefore less pollution, both environmental and otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Perhaps the newer cars with which the older ones would be replaced would use fuel more efficiently than the others, be more economical to run and have catalytic converters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

*leaves before anyone notices that she knows ###### all about cars*

Edit: Also, couldn't the metal from the old cars be used to make new ones? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[mwl1]

Hopefully there'll just be fewer cars and therefore less pollution, both environmental and otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Perhaps the newer cars with which the older ones would be replaced would use fuel more efficiently than the others, be more economical to run and have catalytic converters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

*leaves before anyone notices that she knows ###### all about cars*

Edit: Also, couldn't the metal from the old cars be used to make new ones? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I do appreciate that, but will the difference really outweigh the pollution caused by scrapping all the cars etc?!

I wonder if the government will have thought of that...

[barry-clari]

Hopefully there'll just be fewer cars and therefore less pollution, both environmental and otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Perhaps the newer cars with which the older ones would be replaced would use fuel more efficiently than the others, be more economical to run and have catalytic converters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

*leaves before anyone notices that she knows ###### all about cars*

Edit: Also, couldn't the metal from the old cars be used to make new ones? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I do appreciate that, but will the difference really outweigh the pollution caused by scrapping all the cars etc?!

I wonder if the government will have thought of that...

I don't think they have...but slightly off topic, I like 2CVs too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). And Renault 4s... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[mwl1]

Hopefully there'll just be fewer cars and therefore less pollution, both environmental and otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Perhaps the newer cars with which the older ones would be replaced would use fuel more efficiently than the others, be more economical to run and have catalytic converters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

*leaves before anyone notices that she knows ###### all about cars*

Edit: Also, couldn't the metal from the old cars be used to make new ones? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I do appreciate that, but will the difference really outweigh the pollution caused by scrapping all the cars etc?!

I wonder if the government will have thought of that...

I don't think they have...but slightly off topic, I like 2CVs too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . And Renault 4s... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I love Renault 4s too! I'll need a big garage...

[hello_cello]

If you have a glue stick handy...

(IMG:http://grumlt.citrina.lt/CitroPasakos/Toys/renault_4_tl.jpg)

[Crotchetymum]

What do folk think of the new "car scrappage scheme"? I think that this thinly disguised "environmental measure" is actually an attempt to give the ailing car industry a boost.


*The 2CV thing is serious. I've always wanted one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Cynical, but possibly rightly so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(btw my sister-in-law has a 2CV van)

Just remembered - my OH was looking at a rather smart electric motorbike that was on display in the town on Monday - can't remember its name, but he was quite impressed.

[barry-clari]

Hopefully there'll just be fewer cars and therefore less pollution, both environmental and otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Perhaps the newer cars with which the older ones would be replaced would use fuel more efficiently than the others, be more economical to run and have catalytic converters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

*leaves before anyone notices that she knows ###### all about cars*

Edit: Also, couldn't the metal from the old cars be used to make new ones? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I do appreciate that, but will the difference really outweigh the pollution caused by scrapping all the cars etc?!

I wonder if the government will have thought of that...

I don't think they have...but slightly off topic, I like 2CVs too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . And Renault 4s... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I love Renault 4s too! I'll need a big garage...

I travelled round western France as a passenger in a Renault 4 some years ago. That was fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[hello_cello]

Ooh, you're in luck!

(IMG:http://www.sitruuna.com/2cvstuff/bigger1-50/card-no-13.jpg)

[mwl1]

If you have a glue stick handy...

(IMG:http://grumlt.citrina.lt/CitroPasakos/Toys/renault_4_tl.jpg)

Already got it! Will try the 2CV one though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

What do folk think of the new "car scrappage scheme"? I think that this thinly disguised "environmental measure" is actually an attempt to give the ailing car industry a boost.


*The 2CV thing is serious. I've always wanted one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Cynical, but possibly rightly so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(btw my sister-in-law has a 2CV van)

Wow! The Fourgonnette is rather rare on these shores!

[Arundodonuts]

What do folk think of the new "car scrappage scheme"? I think that this thinly disguised "environmental measure" is actually an attempt to give the ailing car industry a boost.

I didn't think it was thinly disguised.

Quote from "Department of Business":

"The UK scheme, with £300m from Government and matched funding from industry, is intended to provide immediate support on a short-term basis to boost the car industry and its supply chain in the wake of falling sales. It will also get older vehicles off the road and encourage consumers to invest in new, safer, and potentially more environmentally friendly models".

[Markey78]

The figures in a classic car magazine (ok they are going to be biased anyway) reckons that just on carbon emmissions, manufacturing a new car takes the equivalent of 60,000 miles on an old car, dont seem that enviormentally friendly to me!

As for metal it has always been recycled anyway, think the problem is more that some of plastics and things that cant be recycled

But on the other hand everyone go out and buy new cars, cause it keeps me in a job! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(yes 2cvs are pretty cool, but not as good as vw camper vans (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

[Czerny]

Hopefully there'll just be fewer cars and therefore less pollution, both environmental and otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think the world where fewer cars are driven is the one where aeroplanes are piloted by pigs...

[Mad Tom]

Environmentally it makes no sense to replace old cars with new. It is almost always better sense - financially and environmentally - to keep an old car running, rather than incur the energy and resource costs of scrapping it and making a new vehicle as a replacement - especially for a low-mileage motorist.

[Arundodonuts]

The figures in a classic car magazine (ok they are going to be biased anyway) reckons that just on carbon emmissions, manufacturing a new car takes the equivalent of 60,000 miles on an old car, dont seem that enviormentally friendly to me!

As for metal it has always been recycled anyway, think the problem is more that some of plastics and things that cant be recycled

The plastics situation has improved, recycled and recyclable plastics are now commonly used for car parts.

For an even greener solution there is the (concept so far) Lotus approach:

http://www.grouplotus.com/managedcontent/view/117