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| Dominant minor and relative minor of dominant |
| BeckyS |
 Jun 22 2011, 03:27 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 13-May 09 Member No.: 65398  |
Please could somebody clarify how to work out the dominant minor -
for example, if I am in C major, is the dominant minor, simply G minor? And also, would E minor, simple be called the 'relative minor of the dominant'. Thank you |
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| Czerny |
Jun 22 2011, 04:36 PM
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Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4084 Joined: 7-December 07 Member No.: 21097 |
Yes and yes! Or, in the case of the second question, it certainly could be.
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| fsharpminor |
Jun 22 2011, 07:38 PM
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Maestro Group: Members Posts: 12249 Joined: 7-June 06 From: Wirral (originally Keighley, Yorks) Member No.: 7089 |
Yes both answers are correct.
I was trying to work out the other day why the Ravel Sonatine starts in my favourite key of F#minor, but the second movement is in D flat Major. Of course the dominant of F#Minor is C#Minor, the enharmonic note of Dflat, which Ravel changed to Major. |
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| Czerny |
Jun 22 2011, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(fsharpminor @ Jun 22 2011, 08:38 PM)  I was trying to work out the other day why the Ravel Sonatine starts in my favourite key of F#minor, but the second movement is in D flat Major. Of course the dominant of F#Minor is C#Minor, the enharmonic note of Dflat, which Ravel changed to Major. I think the "Raindrop" prelude does the same (or something similar). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
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| madbassoonist |
Jun 23 2011, 01:32 PM
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Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2212 Joined: 23-February 09 From: South Cambs Member No.: 56880 |
QUOTE(Czerny @ Jun 22 2011, 08:44 PM) QUOTE(fsharpminor @ Jun 22 2011, 08:38 PM) I was trying to work out the other day why the Ravel Sonatine starts in my favourite key of F#minor, but the second movement is in D flat Major. Of course the dominant of F#Minor is C#Minor, the enharmonic note of Dflat, which Ravel changed to Major. I think the "Raindrop" prelude does the same (or something similar). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) It does go from Db major to C# minor (then back again) but the difference is more obvious, rather than having a 'step in between' with F# minor --> (dominant) --> enharmonic major. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| jod |
Jun 23 2011, 02:10 PM
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Maestro Group: Banned Posts: 9899 Joined: 14-January 05 From: Burwell, Cambridgeshire Member No.: 2939 |
The trouble with e minor in relation to C major as it has so many descriptions.
The relative minor is a minor. So it could be the dominant minor of the relative minor. The dominant is G and its relevant minor is e minor so described thus it is the relative minor. Or it could just be the mediant triad (chord III) - A very rarely used triad usually used in first inversion IIIb However, part one of that question was much easier the dominant minor to C is g minor, usually used in a pivot note modulation or as part of a modal switch. |
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