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Russian/Chinese teachers, Demanding music teachers

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LilyAskar	Mar 12 2012, 11:57 PM Post #1
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 4-March 12 Member No.: 415278	I've had Chinese teacher in the past and some of them were super strict and my friends also had Chinese piano teachers who they said were very strict with them. Recently I got a new violin teacher who is Russian, who is actually the first Russian teacher I've ever met and he is so strict! He even hit me for playing something wrong. I like him as a person because he's funny but he has such as bad temper! His threats are so scary and he is such a perfectionist and it's annoying. Apparently Russian teachers are known for being like this too, according to my friends. What is it about Chinese or Russian teachers that make the more strict than say...American one's. (who seem so laid back!) Also, on the who I find music teachers far more capable of being intimidating in comparison to any other teacher I know. Such as the one's at school or my tutor. Why is this?

delicato	Mar 13 2012, 12:27 AM Post #2
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 20-January 11 Member No.: 196289	QUOTE(LilyAskar @ Mar 12 2012, 11:57 PM) I've had Chinese teacher in the past and some of them were super strict and my friends also had Chinese piano teachers who they said were very strict with them. Recently I got a new violin teacher who is Russian, who is actually the first Russian teacher I've ever met and he is so strict! He even hit me for playing something wrong. I like him as a person because he's funny but he has such as bad temper! His threats are so scary and he is such a perfectionist and it's annoying. Apparently Russian teachers are known for being like this too, according to my friends. What is it about Chinese or Russian teachers that make the more strict than say...American one's. (who seem so laid back!) Also, on the who I find music teachers far more capable of being intimidating in comparison to any other teacher I know. Such as the one's at school or my tutor. Why is this? I would say that hitting a student has gone way past demanding and is called some thing else. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

LilyAskar	Mar 13 2012, 06:25 AM Post #3
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 4-March 12 Member No.: 415278	Wait so it's not normal? It doesn't seem to be that unusual to the people I complain to! Actually I prefer him hitting me to his yelling which is freaking irritating. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

corenfa	Mar 13 2012, 07:59 AM Post #4
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	I don't think that yelling and hitting is appropriate behaviour for a teacher regardless of where they're from - even if it's "normal" behaviour for them. There are many non-American cultures which have a tradition of strict instruction in the arts - there are good and bad sides to this which I'm not going to discuss here - and a teacher who is from this tradition will undoubtedly use elements of it in their instruction.

LilyAskar	Mar 13 2012, 08:13 AM Post #5
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 4-March 12 Member No.: 415278	Like the "elements" he's using on me? X_X sigh at least he knows how to teach when he's not mad and I do improve rapidly but sometimes I can't get something all because he's standing there making me nervous and when I go home there's not tension and I play it perfectly and I'm like WTF. Sometimes even if I practiced I still play it wrong when I go to lessons because I'm naturally an anxious person + he makes it worse...At least he's dedicated I see him twice a week. Maybe I should tell him, but I don't want to get kicked out......... == Are most of the people on this forum from the UK? Are teacher there nice in general? Just curious.

corenfa	Mar 13 2012, 08:28 AM Post #6
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	I can't speak for anyone else but - I live in the UK for now, and I am from a part of the world that means that I have some experience of the cultures which I mentioned above (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) My current teacher was trained in Russia (I am an adult student though) and she is indeed strict, but does not yell or hit. Her strictness takes the form of being very exacting about what she wants me to do- and she will make me do it until I get it, even if it means spending half an hour on scales. I like her. I think you'll get nice and not-nice teachers wherever in the world you are.

barry-clari	Mar 13 2012, 08:36 AM Post #7
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40657 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	Having an intimidating aura is often something that comes with the territory of university/conservatoire teachers, even, yes, with occasional raised voices. But hitting is never, ever acceptable, and I would immediately part company with and complain about any teacher who did this to me.

maggiemay	Mar 13 2012, 08:37 AM Post #8
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 18178 Joined: 12-January 04 From: S E England Member No.: 413	I think hitting goes way beyond what is reasonable. I'm from the UK but I have lived and worked in the far East. I am very aware that teachng methods and approaches vary enormously and I don't subscribe to the current 'no touching' political correctness - but hitting - NO!

barry-clari	Mar 13 2012, 08:39 AM Post #9
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40657 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(LilyAskar @ Mar 13 2012, 08:13 AM) Are most of the people on this forum from the UK? Are teacher there nice in general? Just curious. Most of us are UK based, yes. And the various teachers I've had have, with one very early exception, been excellent, and also have been thoroughly lovely people. I don't have regular clarinet lessons now, but when I do select a teacher for an occasional consultation session, it's always been thoroughly stimulating and fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

LilyAskar	Mar 13 2012, 08:42 AM Post #10
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 4-March 12 Member No.: 415278	I may have exaggerated a little unintentionally. Does a slap on someone's hand or back count as hitting or not really? X( why don't you agree with 'no touching'? I want a UK teacher now~ lol

barry-clari	Mar 13 2012, 08:48 AM Post #11
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40657 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(LilyAskar @ Mar 13 2012, 08:42 AM) Does a slap on someone's hand or back count as hitting or not really? I wouldn't be happy with this.

corenfa	Mar 13 2012, 08:55 AM Post #12
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	QUOTE(LilyAskar @ Mar 13 2012, 08:42 AM) I may have exaggerated a little unintentionally. Does a slap on someone's hand or back count as hitting or not really? X( why don't you agree with 'no touching'? I want a UK teacher now~ lol I would not be happy with a slap anywhere on my person from a teacher. I also don't subscribe to the "no touching" thing - from the viewpoint of a student - my teacher moves my arms around a lot when I play to show me how I need to hold them. She also repositions my shoulders. I wouldn't have learnt as much without this sort of physical "demonstration".

barry-clari	Mar 13 2012, 09:09 AM Post #13
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40657 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(corenfa @ Mar 13 2012, 08:55 AM) I also don't subscribe to the "no touching" thing - from the viewpoint of a student - my teacher moves my arms around a lot when I play to show me how I need to hold them. She also repositions my shoulders. I wouldn't have learnt as much without this sort of physical "demonstration". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but often as a teacher in schools in particular, you have no choice : touching is absolutely forbidden.

corenfa	Mar 13 2012, 09:16 AM Post #14
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Mar 13 2012, 09:09 AM) QUOTE(corenfa @ Mar 13 2012, 08:55 AM) I also don't subscribe to the "no touching" thing - from the viewpoint of a student - my teacher moves my arms around a lot when I play to show me how I need to hold them. She also repositions my shoulders. I wouldn't have learnt as much without this sort of physical "demonstration". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but often as a teacher in schools in particular, you have no choice : touching is absolutely forbidden. Indeed, regrettable (only my opinion) but understandable.

barry-clari	Mar 13 2012, 09:18 AM Post #15
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40657 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(corenfa @ Mar 13 2012, 09:16 AM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Mar 13 2012, 09:09 AM) QUOTE(corenfa @ Mar 13 2012, 08:55 AM) I also don't subscribe to the "no touching" thing - from the viewpoint of a student - my teacher moves my arms around a lot when I play to show me how I need to hold them. She also repositions my shoulders. I wouldn't have learnt as much without this sort of physical "demonstration". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but often as a teacher in schools in particular, you have no choice : touching is absolutely forbidden. Indeed, regrettable (only my opinion) but understandable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

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