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katemorrisviolin
post Dec 14 2011, 08:22 PM
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Lots of respect to everyone who wants to lose weight. I am a short lady, and lost 3 stone last year with weight watchers after being overweight or obese most of my adult life. It works, no doubt, if you stick at it. but is not for everyone because it requires alot of planning and the weight loss is relatively slow compared to very low calorie diets. Yes you pay money, but it works and you don't have to be hungry, so.....I'd recommend it to anyone who's serious about long term weight loss and is realistic about not wanting a quick fix.

The problem with rubbish junk food is, well, your body needs nourishing to function well. If you fill up with rubbish, you feel full but still your appetite and brain tells you to eat more because your body feels lacking in what it really needs. Filling up, and I mean properly filling up till you feel nice and full and satisfied, three times a day, on nutritious low glycemic index foods really works. I hope no-one here thinks they should starve themselves to lose weight. Weight watchers website has lots of free recipie ideas. As does NHS Choices website. Good luck everyone.

Alcohol is a nightmare if you want to lose weight! It makes you feel hungry and weakens your resolve. Most alcoholic drinks contain a certain amount of calories, it all adds up.

Good luck everyone.
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post Dec 14 2011, 08:31 PM
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Most of my uncontrollable weight gain has been down to drinking copious amounts of wine in my 20s and 30s.


I doubt it very much. Despite what many people think, alcohol does not cause weight gain, unless you drink litres of it every day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) The main cause is too much solid and heavy food, together with too little exercise. Wine is made up of almost 95% water which quickly passes through the body. My main problem was the solid food. Cakes, biscuits, sweets, etc. Personally I still feel I need to lose a few more kilos, but am quite satisfied with my progress so far.

P.S. I reserve the right to change my mind after Christmas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/party1.gif)


Cheesecake is my ruin!


I can't stand cheesecake. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ill.gif) It's the most disgusting invention ever, possibly with the exception of broccoli. Give me a chocolate cake anytime. But we're supposed to be talking about slimming, so please ignore this message. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 14 2011, 08:52 PM
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I'll join too. I've been on a gradual weight loss programme since September, and have lost about a stone so far - only four more to go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I'm not following a diet programme as such, but have cut out biscuits, crisps, cakes, butter and most of the booze from my diet. I've lost 1-2lbs a week, and haven't modified my main meal at all so that it's easy to stick to (my husband does most of the cooking because I don't finish teaching until 7).

This is a long-haul modification to my eating habits which I'm intending to stick to, although it might need to be tweaked a little to accommodate Christmas.


This sounds exactly like what I need to do as I also don't do the cooking. I will be only too glad to join if it means any kind of support on the will power thing. As far as food is concerned I haven't got much will power at all.
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post Dec 14 2011, 08:52 PM
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Most of my uncontrollable weight gain has been down to drinking copious amounts of wine in my 20s and 30s.

Wine is made up of almost 95% water which quickly passes through the body.

Is that the reason why a glass of wine has well in excess of 100 calories (closer to 200 for the generous big glasses that most people serve here), and a pint of beer close to 200 - because there's so much water in it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Alcohol alone certainly doesn't cause weight gain, but it is a factor, especially in people who have the regular pint, or one or two glasses of wine a night, to "wind down". It really doesn't have to be "litres".

It can definitely make the difference between maintaining weight and having it slowly creep up on you. An additional 200 calories (which doesn't sound much) on top of your daily allowance makes you put on 20lbs every year. If you save the calories consumed via alcoholic beverages somewhere else, okay, but how many people actually do this? They still eat everything they would eat anyway (probably even more, because alcohol also gives you the munchies, even in smaller doses).
I reckon a lot of people actually underestimate how much regular alcohol consumption HAS to do with their weight gain. I am always amazed how people who drink quite a bit at the weekend, or a little every day, completely forget to include alcohol into their daily calorie allowance. Is it because it's liquid, and everything that's liquid doesn't have calories? Bring on the full fat Coke then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It is not the only factor of course, you are right about exercise and food, but I would be wary to dismiss weight gain through drinking alcohol. It's a tricky one, and sadly not as one-dimensional as some people like to think.
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I'll join too. I've been on a gradual weight loss programme since September, and have lost about a stone so far - only four more to go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I'm not following a diet programme as such, but have cut out biscuits, crisps, cakes, butter and most of the booze from my diet. I've lost 1-2lbs a week, and haven't modified my main meal at all so that it's easy to stick to (my husband does most of the cooking because I don't finish teaching until 7).

This is a long-haul modification to my eating habits which I'm intending to stick to, although it might need to be tweaked a little to accommodate Christmas.


This sounds exactly like what I need to do as I also don't do the cooking. I will be only too glad to join if it means any kind of support on the will power thing. As far as food is concerned I haven't got much will power at all.
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post Dec 14 2011, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Dugazon @ Dec 14 2011, 08:52 PM) *

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QUOTE(dave brum @ Dec 14 2011, 07:50 PM) *

Most of my uncontrollable weight gain has been down to drinking copious amounts of wine in my 20s and 30s.

Wine is made up of almost 95% water which quickly passes through the body.

Is that the reason why a glass of wine has well in excess of 100 calories (closer to 200 for the generous big glasses that most people serve here), and a pint of beer close to 200 - because there's so much water in it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Alcohol alone certainly doesn't cause weight gain, but it is a factor, especially in people who have the regular pint, or one or two glasses of wine a night, to "wind down". It really doesn't have to be "litres".

It can definitely make the difference between maintaining weight and having it slowly creep up on you. An additional 200 calories (which doesn't sound much) on top of your daily allowance makes you put on 20lbs every year. If you save the calories consumed via alcoholic beverages somewhere else, okay, but how many people actually do this? They still eat everything they would eat anyway (probably even more, because alcohol also gives you the munchies, even in smaller doses).
I reckon a lot of people actually underestimate how much regular alcohol consumption HAS to do with their weight gain. I am always amazed how people who drink quite a bit at the weekend, or a little every day, completely forget to include alcohol into their daily calorie allowance. Is it because it's liquid, and everything that's liquid doesn't have calories? Bring on the full fat Coke then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

It is not the only factor of course, you are right about exercise and food, but I would be wary to dismiss weight gain through drinking alcohol. It's a tricky one, and sadly not as one-dimensional as some people like to think.

It's interesting that the only week my weight remained the same rather than decreasing was the week I fancied a glass of white wine, opened a bottle to have one and then remembered that my husband doesn't drink white wine any more and so had to finish the rest off (over the course of the week, I hasten to add!).
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Alcohol is a nightmare if you want to lose weight! It makes you feel hungry and weakens your resolve.


Yep.. A couple of beers and I'm scouring the house for any chocolate OH may have hidden (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Dec 15 2011, 08:43 AM
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Me too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

Although it's complicated ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) I'll give it a go... in the New Year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 15 2011, 09:39 AM
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Maybe now that I've had so many replies we could all bite the bullet and list what our current weights are and how many pounds/kg we need to lose to be at our ideal weight (ie. healthy and feeling good)

I weigh 20 stones. To be at my ideal body mass for a 6ft2ins male I should be 13st 7lbs, although I'd be happy with getting down to 16st and reviewing the situation thereon.

I should point out if you're reading this outside of Wales Scotland England or Ireland a stone is fourteen pounds, so 15st= 210lbs. A stone is also approximate to 6.3kg.

I'm sure that we could add more than a few lbs to that to compensate for the Christmas overindulgences.
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post Dec 15 2011, 09:49 AM
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I don't do weighing myself - not since Dr Rosemary on BBC Breakfast said the tape measure was a better way to go. Women's waist's should be less than 30 inches, and men less then 32.

My waist measurement last week (before starting diet) = 37 inches

My diet is Low Fat - everything must be less than 2% fat. That means no butter/marg, oil, cake, biscuits, chocolate, .... but I can eat a lot of crumpets with jam, and rice crisps, and vegi soup.

One week in and my waist now measures 36 inches.
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post Dec 15 2011, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(Alicia Ocean @ Dec 15 2011, 09:49 AM) *

I don't do weighing myself - not since Dr Rosemary on BBC Breakfast said the tape measure was a better way to go. Women's waist's should be less than 30 inches, and men less then 32.


I've heard this, too, but my waist measurement varies almost as much as my weight, depending on whether I'm holding fluid or suffering the dreaded bloating, which also seems to depend whether I've eaten carbs.

I seem to hover around 11st 4lbs and I'm 5'6'' - not gross but I'd like to have a bit less to heave around because I love hill walking. I've even stopped admiring sports cars and now look speculatively at things that are easier to get out of.
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Low- fat chips (courtesy of Rosemary Conley) cut a large unpeeled potato into chunky chips, bring a saucepan of water (about a pint) and a crumbled stock cube to the boil and cook the chips for about 5 mins. Then spread onto a baking sheet covered with baking parchment and give the chips a squirt or 2 of 1-cal squirty oil and bake in a hot oven for about 20 mins.
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post Dec 15 2011, 10:29 AM
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So, I want to gauge opinion on here, would there be an interest amongst musicians in starting a weight loss support group thread on here that would be a trifle less extortionate than Weight watchers/Slimming World, or any other similar weightloss scam out to capitalise upon people's misfortune???

Thank You.

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Great idea!
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post Dec 15 2011, 10:33 AM
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My waist is 87cm, ideally it should be 80cm. I know that's not much at all, but I've been obese, so I need to be really careful I don't undo all my good work. It would be so easy to end up back where I started. I still want to stuff my face with energy dense food evey day.
It's really hard to stay in control when people say to me "you've not got to worry about your weight any more, go on have that cake/chocolate/drink etc".
Good luck everyone.
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post Dec 15 2011, 10:43 AM
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I should point out if you're reading this outside of Wales Scotland England or Ireland a stone is fourteen pounds, so 15st= 210lbs. A stone is also approximate to 6.3kg.




(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) We do use kilos in England too. I was born in the decimal age so have absolutely no idea about stones and pounds. We were taught centimetres, metres, grammes, kilograms and litres at school. At the moment I'm 175cm tall and weigh just over 83kg.

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Admission time has arrived then! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

I'm 10 st something or other (a little rather than a lot) but that's too much because I'm vertically challenged, being a quarter of an inch under 5 feet. I lost weight last year with SlimmingWorld.com, but it's creeping back on mostly due to being on steroids. That's going to make losing it again extra hard, so I need all the willpower I can get. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: maybe we could do with a conversion chart in this thread somewhere so imperial people can understand the decimal people and vice versa!
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