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| killua1219 |
Jul 17 2008, 02:29 PM
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Is it a must to play only the pieces published by that particular publisher in the bracket?
Can use others? |
| Mad Tom |
Jul 17 2008, 02:43 PM
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Is it a must to play only the pieces published by that particular publisher in the bracket? Can use others? The repertoire lists for the Diplomas state that you may use any edition other than the suggested one. Don't know what the situation is for grade exams, but cannot imagine it being different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piano.gif) <-- Happy Bunny |
| mrbouffant |
Jul 17 2008, 02:50 PM
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.. of course if you stray away from the recommended edition, the examiners may ask in the viva: "why did you choose that particular edition?" and expect a reasoned reply...
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| Mad Tom |
Jul 17 2008, 03:08 PM
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.. of course if you stray away from the recommended edition, the examiners may ask in the viva: "why did you choose that particular edition?" and expect a reasoned reply... "Because it is the one that was already on my music shelf" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
| mrbouffant |
Jul 17 2008, 03:13 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1599 Joined: 26-June 08 From: Choir East. Row 3, Seat 2. Member No.: 33716 |
.. of course if you stray away from the recommended edition, the examiners may ask in the viva: "why did you choose that particular edition?" and expect a reasoned reply... "Because it is the one that was already on my music shelf" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) nul points |
| Mad Tom |
Jul 17 2008, 03:21 PM
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.. of course if you stray away from the recommended edition, the examiners may ask in the viva: "why did you choose that particular edition?" and expect a reasoned reply... "Because it is the one that was already on my music shelf" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) nul points So I am expected to either: a. Lie creatively, or b. Waste money ? |
| mrbouffant |
Jul 17 2008, 03:23 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1599 Joined: 26-June 08 From: Choir East. Row 3, Seat 2. Member No.: 33716 |
.. of course if you stray away from the recommended edition, the examiners may ask in the viva: "why did you choose that particular edition?" and expect a reasoned reply... "Because it is the one that was already on my music shelf" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) nul points So I am expected to either: a. Lie creatively, or b. Waste money ? No, you can tell the truth but they may well expect you to understand some of the basics of why edition X is 'better' than edition Y. As far as I understand it, Diplomas are more about thinking for yourself from a performance point of view and justifying your approach/interpretation etc. rather than just being spoon fed. |
| cellocase |
Jul 17 2008, 03:27 PM
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So I am expected to either: a. Lie creatively, or b. Waste money ? I'm planning to go for a) if it comes up on Saturday... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
| Czerny |
Jul 17 2008, 04:59 PM
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| anacrusis |
Jul 17 2008, 05:27 PM
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Don't forget that whatever edition you do use, the examiner will expect to see the same edition as the one you have on the music desk. And it is a good idea to use a publisher of good reputation, to avoid falling foul of poor editing. Another problem can be found with some of the open-source music available online - sure, it may well be ex-copyright, but changes in thinking may well mean that an edition, say of Bach, from the 1930s may have performance markings which are not original, and also not marked in such a way that you can tell they are not original (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif).
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| Robodoc |
Jul 17 2008, 11:13 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2720 Joined: 30-March 07 From: Chorley, Lancs Member No.: 10431 |
The repertoire lists for the Diplomas state that you may use any edition other than the suggested one. Don't know what the situation is for grade exams, but cannot imagine it being different. The Gershwin pieces for list c at grade 8 this year and next (as well as the Fats Waller and the Mussorgsky for next year) specify "This arrangement only". For Diploma, the Gershwin pieces from the same book do not have the same specification (or at least not that I can find) but since the music is still in copyright (just) I wouldn't expect there to be that many alternatives. I would imagine the same applies to any work still in copyright. |
| staccato |
Jul 18 2008, 03:19 PM
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Don't forget that whatever edition you do use, the examiner will expect to see the same edition as the one you have on the music desk. And it is a good idea to use a publisher of good reputation, to avoid falling foul of poor editing. Another problem can be found with some of the open-source music available online - sure, it may well be ex-copyright, but changes in thinking may well mean that an edition, say of Bach, from the 1930s may have performance markings which are not original, and also not marked in such a way that you can tell they are not original (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). Hmmm... why can't I use two different editions? I have 2 different Mozart editions, one ABRSM and one Peters and I don't plan on duplicating either of them! I had the Peters one first and then decided to get hold of a better version. For the exam I was going to use the one I started with (Peters) but just as a guide since I'm trying to memorize it. Is that not a good idea? thanks (p.s. sorry if is this hijacking the thread?!) |
| jod |
Jul 18 2008, 04:52 PM
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If it a case of Henle or Bairenreiter for Mozart Sonatas since both are meant to be an Urtext, a comment along the lines of I preferred the pagination and print style of (the one already on your shelves) may suffice, there are both supposedly Urtext editions (as a throwaway comment). Do make sure you know what an Urtext is before saying the last bit.
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| staccato |
Jul 18 2008, 05:45 PM
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If it a case of Henle or Bairenreiter for Mozart Sonatas since both are meant to be an Urtext, a comment along the lines of I preferred the pagination and print style of (the one already on your shelves) may suffice, there are both supposedly Urtext editions (as a throwaway comment). Do make sure you know what an Urtext is before saying the last bit. Thanks for your input. My Peters edition 'claims' to be an Urtext too! Time to go and dig out my old OU notes me thinks! :-) |
| fyrtlemyrtle |
Jul 18 2008, 05:47 PM
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There are urtexts and then there are urtexts...
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