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katemorrisviolin	Mar 13 2012, 11:52 AM Post #1261
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 507 Joined: 27-September 11 From: Guernsey Member No.: 322745	QUOTE(katyjay @ Mar 13 2012, 11:32 AM) QUOTE(katemorrisviolin @ Mar 13 2012, 11:24 AM) Hello again fellow recorder players. I am doing well with the alto so far but have now come into posession of a tenor also. Presumably if I work through a descant beginner book that will be a good way to learn to play the right fingering on the tenor? Yes, that will be absolutely fine. The one thing I'd say you need to take care with a tenor is strain. Tenors are stretchy and tenors are heavy, and if you stretch too much and hold the thing for too long, it can hurt. So do your tenor playing on the "little and often" basis. Two recorders so far - that's a flying start (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thanks for the tip. Fortunately I have hands like a gorilla after years of guitar playing, so my mouth muscles feel strain before my fingers do. As for two recorders so far...I have been eyeing up a sopranino...then of course I'll need a descant to complete the set. It's a bass I really want though. If anyone has an unloved one in need of a good home, please send me a message and we'll talk!

anacrusis	Mar 13 2012, 06:52 PM Post #1262
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5231 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 4852	Erm, if you are eyeing up a sopranino, you'll need earplugs before you go for the descant (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'll keep my ears out for any murmur of a bass, but the spare one I have has got dead keywork and at the moment I can't get it fixed: it also is embarrassingly bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). My good one is very much Spoken For (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif).

katemorrisviolin	Mar 13 2012, 07:12 PM Post #1263
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 507 Joined: 27-September 11 From: Guernsey Member No.: 322745	QUOTE(anacrusis @ Mar 13 2012, 06:52 PM) Erm, if you are eyeing up a sopranino, you'll need earplugs before you go for the descant (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'll keep my ears out for any murmur of a bass, but the spare one I have has got dead keywork and at the moment I can't get it fixed: it also is embarrassingly bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). My good one is very much Spoken For (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). Aw thanks re: bass! Edit: I have been told today my Dad has aquired a wooden bass recorder from a friend who inherited an unwanted one. I can have it. Lucky me! It will probably need a service.....if anyone can recommend somewhere I can post it for a service please message me (I'm in Guernsey so can't just pop up to London...)

katemorrisviolin	Mar 27 2012, 10:33 AM Post #1264
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 507 Joined: 27-September 11 From: Guernsey Member No.: 322745	I am beside myself with delight with my bass recorder. It's sound carries incredibly well, it can be heard through two closed doors but the sound itself is soft and wooden. Gorgeous. Now I need to spend some time re-wiring my brain to play from the bass clef. I am hoping to join a small recorder group who have as yet never had a bass player so I doubt they have any music to include bass recorder yet. Can anyone recommend any online sources of free (easy!) four part recorder music? thanks!

anacrusis	Mar 27 2012, 11:39 AM Post #1265
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5231 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 4852	(IMG:style_emoticons/default/woot.gif) for bass recorder... have you got something handy to help you internalise that bass clef first? I can recommend Mrs McGillivray's Welcome: it has English and Scots traditional tunes, plus some other material, and takes you through the range of the bass quite nicely. After that - Werner Icking would be a good start. the homepage - here you can find links both to their own extensive supply of online free stuff, and to other places which have similar. Have fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

wendywoo	Mar 27 2012, 12:17 PM Post #1266
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 14-August 09 From: Canterbury Member No.: 72855	Here are two more links to free recorder music http://www.geocities.jp/loverecder/ http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Mondrup_Recorder_Collection

Maizie	Mar 27 2012, 12:34 PM Post #1267
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4862 Joined: 5-February 07 From: Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire Member No.: 9360	If you are feeling particularly masochistic, you will find online very old out of copyright facsimilies, e.g. at imslp.org. For recorder, a number of these will be in the French violin clef. This is a treble clef moved down so G is on the bottom line, i.e. exactly like bass clef. So you can use it as bass music if you can get your eyes around the squiggly writing and get over the fact that there is an offset treble clef at the start (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (My teacher tells me that French violin clef isn't confusing, 'it's just like bass clef'. Actually, this doesn't help me very much at all!!)

anacrusis	Mar 27 2012, 01:13 PM Post #1268
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5231 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 4852	Hehe - I'm still saving up French violin clef for another day, Maizie... I went to a concert last weekend, of Bach flute sonatas played by Rachel Brown, as I'd learned one from her programme, and am attempting to embark on learning another. She was playing from facsimile, and told us that the original music had been written in ink Bach'd made himself, from oak gall and suchlike, and that the ink was slowly but surely eating through the paper - especially not great as the music was written on both sides of the paper. Conservators have apparently sliced the paper through sideways so that they could insert a film to protect each side of the paper from being nibbled by the ink from the other side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif). I'm now waiting for Rachel Brown's edition of some Quantz sonatas but transposed for treble to come out. She reckoned it was a better bet than trying to play them at flute pitch on a bigger recorder....

katemorrisviolin	Mar 27 2012, 07:24 PM Post #1269
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 507 Joined: 27-September 11 From: Guernsey Member No.: 322745	thankyou anacrusis, maizie and wendywoo! Plenty to keep me busy there. My first recorder group meeting will be this saturday at Castle Cornet, a medieval castle on a rock off the end of Guernsey. I wonder whether we shall also all be wearing long pointy hats and drinking mead!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Happy day!

Tenor Viol	Mar 27 2012, 08:58 PM Post #1270
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2889 Joined: 25-October 11 From: Shropshire Member No.: 343214	An option that viol players use and I think it works for recorders is to play choral works such as Verdelot or Arcdelt as instrumental pieces

andante_in_c	Mar 27 2012, 09:03 PM Post #1271
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 10321 Joined: 15-November 03 From: Hampshire, UK Member No.: 130	QUOTE(Tenor Viol @ Mar 27 2012, 09:58 PM) An option that viol players use and I think it works for recorders is to play choral works such as Verdelot or Arcdelt as instrumental pieces It works as long as whoever is playing treble is happy playing up an octave. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Silvermum	Mar 28 2012, 09:33 PM Post #1272
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 25-May 09 Member No.: 66395	Hello! Just to let fellow recorder players know I've added details of a Recorder Playing Day in East Surrey on 24th April 2012 to the events section.... Anyone going to the SRP festival in Guildford the weekend before?

willobie	Mar 28 2012, 10:02 PM Post #1273
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2571 Joined: 9-July 05 From: Nottinghamshire Member No.: 4110	QUOTE(Silvermum @ Mar 28 2012, 10:33 PM) Hello! Just to let fellow recorder players know I've added details of a Recorder Playing Day in East Surrey on 24th April 2012 to the events section.... Anyone going to the SRP festival in Guildford the weekend before? I'll be at the SRP festival! W (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wave.gif)

Tenor Viol	Mar 28 2012, 10:11 PM Post #1274
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2889 Joined: 25-October 11 From: Shropshire Member No.: 343214	QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Mar 27 2012, 10:03 PM) QUOTE(Tenor Viol @ Mar 27 2012, 09:58 PM) An option that viol players use and I think it works for recorders is to play choral works such as Verdelot or Arcdelt as instrumental pieces It works as long as whoever is playing treble is happy playing up an octave. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Makes up for me as a tenor viol player (plays off alto C3 clef) having to read either octave treble, or worse, treble at pitch.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Silvermum	Mar 29 2012, 10:56 AM Post #1275
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 25-May 09 Member No.: 66395	QUOTE(willobie @ Mar 28 2012, 11:02 PM) QUOTE(Silvermum @ Mar 28 2012, 10:33 PM) Hello! Just to let fellow recorder players know I've added details of a Recorder Playing Day in East Surrey on 24th April 2012 to the events section.... Anyone going to the SRP festival in Guildford the weekend before? I'll be at the SRP festival! W (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wave.gif) Ooh - we'll try to come to one of your sessions - my friend and her teenage daughter are coming too - it's our first time.. we're so excited (IMG:style_emoticons/default/party2.gif)

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