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> Music Appropriate For Lent, Preventing a faux pas.
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post Feb 27 2009, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(hello_cello @ Feb 27 2009, 07:32 PM) *

It means there is a piece of leather put around the clapper of the bell, so when it stikes instead of a 'ding' its more of a booming sound, very haunting.


Yes; the leather muffles make a much softer sound, but as Hello Cello says, that sound is very haunting, and if you are a bell ringer it seems to stay with you all day. (I don't know whether other parishioners actually notice, but that is not the point).

Quite how this tradition started I don't really know, but I am sure some someone here will know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Feb 27 2009, 08:06 PM
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an even better recording http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_oTlWPGU0w...feature=related
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post Feb 27 2009, 08:20 PM
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I have a Mayhew volume called something like, Lent and Easter Collection. All pretty serviceable, harmless and almost sight readable stuff.
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post Feb 27 2009, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Feb 27 2009, 08:01 PM) *

Half-muffled ringing can be heard here.

Thanks for the info bell-ringing aficionados. (Strangely enough we used to live near Childwall featured on the Youtube link here!)
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post Feb 28 2009, 06:45 PM
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I've just asked the regular organist if I should try out my exam pieces 'on the dog', so to speak, during Lent and he was all for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/party1.gif)

"Just do as you like" he said, so there we are.

If a riot ensues I shall report it on here.
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post Feb 28 2009, 06:48 PM
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I hope none of the Lefebure-Wely Sorties are in the syllabus.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 28 2009, 07:02 PM
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There are no Wellies of any sort in my repertoire, thank you HG. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 28 2009, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(mel2 @ Feb 28 2009, 07:02 PM) *

There are no Wellies of any sort in my repertoire, thank you HG. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just the ones the congregation throw at you.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 28 2009, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Holz Gedeckt @ Feb 28 2009, 07:03 PM) *

QUOTE(mel2 @ Feb 28 2009, 07:02 PM) *

There are no Wellies of any sort in my repertoire, thank you HG. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just the ones the congregation throw at you.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Very likely! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 4 2009, 01:25 PM
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Further to the posts above, I was reminded on Sunday that the Trumpet stop should not be used in services during Lent.

Perhaps it would be useful to have a short list of Lent Do's and Don’ts for those who are less knowledgeable on this subject, or who have simply forgotten. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

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post Mar 4 2009, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Swell Box @ Mar 4 2009, 01:25 PM) *

Further to the posts above, I was reminded on Sunday that the Trumpet stop should not be used in services during Lent.

Perhaps it would be useful to have a short list of Lent Do's and Don’ts for those who are less knowledgeable on this subject, or who have simply forgotten. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Why the H*ll not?!
You would have to have the eye for minutiae of a Pharisee (I was going to take the name of a forumite in vain here but decided against it in the nick of time) to observe all these rules and regs.
Just whose bright idea was it anyway? When did trumpet stops appear on organs? Fortunately I don't have a trumpet stop so am unlikely to flout this one. Are you sure this isn't a wind-up, SB? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) If you are on the level then yes, lets have a Lent List.
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post Mar 4 2009, 01:39 PM
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Possibly not a wind-up - I think there is a tradition in our particular church that we keep off the reed stops during Lent. Much of our music in Lent is unaccompanied, anyway.
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post Mar 4 2009, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(mel2 @ Mar 4 2009, 01:33 PM) *

QUOTE(Swell Box @ Mar 4 2009, 01:25 PM) *

Further to the posts above, I was reminded on Sunday that the Trumpet stop should not be used in services during Lent.

Perhaps it would be useful to have a short list of Lent Do's and Don’ts for those who are less knowledgeable on this subject, or who have simply forgotten. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Why the H*ll not?!
You would have to have the eye for minutiae of a Pharisee (I was going to take the name of a forumite in vain here but decided against it in the nick of time) to observe all these rules and regs.
Just whose bright idea was it anyway? When did trumpet stops appear on organs? Fortunately I don't have a trumpet stop so am unlikely to flout this one. Are you sure this isn't a wind-up, SB? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) If you are on the level then yes, lets have a Lent List.


No, I promise you it wasn't a wind up. I was 'reminded' by one of our Lay Readers as my son was playing on Sunday, (he's just 15), and it was the first time he had ever played for a service in Lent.

I realise that different churches have different rules for the observance of Lent, (ours is high-ish Anglican), so I do think it would be helpful to have a list of Lent do's and don'ts for the reasons that I gave.

That would hopefully help us all to avoid the Faux Pas that the OP was concerned about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Mar 4 2009, 02:24 PM
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Sadly, clipping a 15 year old round the ear is now illegal, even if they make impudent remarks!!

Never heard the 'no reeds in Lent' one, even as high up the candle as your church sounds. The last verse of 40 Days and 40 Nights needs it (and a Tierce de P, but that's a sep issue).

What next, no lights in church, no tea and coffee, no witty remarks in sermons (I know that doesn't happen anyway in places), no smiling in the choir, no hymns in major keys, no semiquavers in voluntary, no pedals, no use of pistons, small choirboys to pump bellows, only stale bread in communion, compulsory sackcloth and ashes on the way in.....

I think all things in moderation. Yes, I use less organ, more thoughtful and reflective voluntaries etc, but a list of do's and dont's just becomes too prescriptive.

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post Mar 4 2009, 02:50 PM
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Ah, if only I felt an illicit thrill when using reeds (or any other stop for that matter!) then I could see the sense in witholding their use. Didn't realise they were so dangerously seductive.

Gosh, it's going to be a long Lent!
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