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Misterioso
post Jun 8 2009, 10:11 PM
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Please can anyone tell me whether any edition of the set pieces can be used in the TG exams as is usually the case with AB exams, or does it have to be the edition listed?

Many thanks.
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post Jun 9 2009, 12:04 AM
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I have never had a problem presenting different editions, including editions downloaded from the net.

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post Jun 9 2009, 07:38 AM
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Yup, 'tis fine. From the TG Info & Regs, page 12:
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Publishers’ names are given in the syllabuses simply as suggestions, and candidates are at liberty to use any other edition, provided that it has not been shortened or otherwise simplified.
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post Jun 9 2009, 11:21 AM
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Oh thank you PianoDoodler, Maizie. I'm thinking about TG for my flute exam which has been on the back burner for FAR too long. But it's all those scales for Grade 5. For some strange reason I find flute scales MUCH harder than piano or violin. All in the mind, I suppose..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(Misterioso @ Jun 9 2009, 12:21 PM) *

Oh thank you PianoDoodler, Maizie. I'm thinking about TG for my flute exam which has been on the back burner for FAR too long. But it's all those scales for Grade 5. For some strange reason I find flute scales MUCH harder than piano or violin. All in the mind, I suppose..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Not at all. It's the lack of correlation between the keys and the notes. There's nothing logical about the fingerings for the 'black notes' on the flute. We're not blessed with twelve fingers so the sharps and flats have to be operated by a spare finger and the Boehm mechanism.

It means that playing scales by interval isn't a viable option, which means we really have to know what's in each one.

And, if you think flute scales are bad, treble recorder ones are infinitely worse. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jun 9 2009, 03:36 PM
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Not at all. It's the lack of correlation between the keys and the notes. There's nothing logical about the fingerings for the 'black notes' on the flute. We're not blessed with twelve fingers so the sharps and flats have to be operated by a spare finger and the Boehm mechanism.


i wonder if the examiner would object to someone taking in one flute in C, one in D, one in E flat... do the guidelines actually say you have to use a Boehm flute? ;-)
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QUOTE(river @ Jun 9 2009, 04:36 PM) *

QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Jun 9 2009, 04:34 PM) *

Not at all. It's the lack of correlation between the keys and the notes. There's nothing logical about the fingerings for the 'black notes' on the flute. We're not blessed with twelve fingers so the sharps and flats have to be operated by a spare finger and the Boehm mechanism.


i wonder if the examiner would object to someone taking in one flute in C, one in D, one in E flat... do the guidelines actually say you have to use a Boehm flute? ;-)

"Flute/Jazz Flute
Candidates may offer their examination on C flute only. Fifes may not be used. Piccolo and alto flute
may be used only where stated in the syllabus"

This is from the introduction to the syllabus for Flute, Clarinet & Saxophone, and the whole document can be downloaded from here: http://www.trinitycollege.co.uk/site/?id=1052
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post Jun 10 2009, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Jun 9 2009, 04:34 PM) *

Not at all. It's the lack of correlation between the keys and the notes. There's nothing logical about the fingerings for the 'black notes' on the flute. We're not blessed with twelve fingers so the sharps and flats have to be operated by a spare finger and the Boehm mechanism.

Thank you, andante_in_c, it's reassuring to know that it isn't just me! Probably a daft question, but please could you tell me what the Boehm mechanism is?

(Meanwhile, I will go and work on a blueprint for a twelve-fingered human being. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )
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post Jun 10 2009, 09:47 AM
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Thank you, andante_in_c, it's reassuring to know that it isn't just me! Probably a daft question, but please could you tell me what the Boehm mechanism is?

The Boehm mechanism refers to the idea of mounting keys on a rod so that the key you depress doesn't necessarily close the hole it is immediately above. It was invented by Boehm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) and simplified fingering of accidentals on modern woodwind instruments. You can easily understand the difference if you compare the action of the keys on one of the bigger recorders with that of a flute.
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post Jun 10 2009, 01:55 PM
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The Boehm mechanism refers to the idea of mounting keys on a rod so that the key you depress doesn't necessarily close the hole it is immediately above. It was invented by Boehm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) and simplified fingering of accidentals on modern woodwind instruments. You can easily understand the difference if you compare the action of the keys on one of the bigger recorders with that of a flute.

Ah, thank you. I understand it now.

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