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| Arundodonuts |
 Aug 24 2012, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(IanG @ Aug 24 2012, 09:44 AM)  Have to confess we went to see the Bradley Wiggins golden post box a few days ago, I wandered past the Philip Hindes box in Manchester on my way into work. QUOTE followed by a trip to the Windmill Pub in Eccleston that has the Wiggins / Tour de France muriel in the wall. (Yes I know its a mural but I much prefer muriel..) !! Obviously a closet Hilda Ogden fan. |
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| Arundodonuts |
Aug 24 2012, 01:29 PM
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Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4922 Joined: 14-May 08 From: Stockport Member No.: 30881 |
[quote name='Arundodonuts' date='Aug 24 2012, 10:34 AM' post='1166239']
[quote name='Maizie' post='1166204' date='Aug 24 2012, 07:47 AM'] Well, Lance...I know the rumours have abounded for years, though I don't have the scientific evidence to hand to personally judge one way or the other. It'll be interesting though, because the ADA have said they'll strip him of his TdF titles...but can they actually do that, or does that have to be the UCI's decision? And if so, would they go against the ADA. [/quote] I would have thought the ADA as an American national body would not have the authority to remove any international results. The World Anti Doping Authority and the UCI have yet to respond (UCI say they will be commenting today). EDIT: The UCI has yet to release a statement but there are comments emanating from that body along the lines of "UCI are the governing body and are responsible for anti-doping procedures, not USADA". |
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| Maizie |
Aug 24 2012, 01:33 PM
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Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4862 Joined: 5-February 07 From: Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire Member No.: 9360 |
QUOTE(Arundodonuts @ Aug 24 2012, 02:29 PM) The UCI has yet to release a statement but there are comments emanating from that body along the lines of "UCI are the governing body and are responsible for anti-doping procedures, not USADA". Exactly. It's a bit like the milk marketing board declaring that your grade 5 theory is invalid.Sort of. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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| Arundodonuts |
Aug 24 2012, 01:39 PM
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Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4922 Joined: 14-May 08 From: Stockport Member No.: 30881 |
QUOTE(Maizie @ Aug 24 2012, 02:33 PM) QUOTE(Arundodonuts @ Aug 24 2012, 02:29 PM) The UCI has yet to release a statement but there are comments emanating from that body along the lines of "UCI are the governing body and are responsible for anti-doping procedures, not USADA". Exactly. It's a bit like the milk marketing board declaring that your grade 5 theory is invalid.Sort of. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Ooh wait, there's more: "The UCI notes Lance Armstrong's decision not to proceed to arbitration in the case that USADA has brought against him. The UCI recognizes that USADA is reported as saying that it will strip Mr. Armstrong of all results from 1998 onwards in addition to imposing a lifetime ban from participating in any sport which recognizes the World Anti-Doping Code. Article 8.3 of the WADC states that where no hearing occurs the Anti-Doping Organization with results management responsibility shall submit to the parties concerned (Mr. Armstrong, WADA and UCI) a reasoned decision explaining the action taken. As USADA has claimed jurisdiction in the case the UCI expects that it will issue a reasoned decision in accordance with Article 8.3 of the Code. Until such time as USADA delivers this decision the UCI has no further comment to make." Since it's clearly for the UCI to change the results of competitons over which it has jurisdiction I don't think Lance is being stripped of his TDF wins any time soon. I predict handbags at dawn. |
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| wendywoo |
Aug 24 2012, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(Maizie @ Aug 24 2012, 02:33 PM) QUOTE(Arundodonuts @ Aug 24 2012, 02:29 PM) The UCI has yet to release a statement but there are comments emanating from that body along the lines of "UCI are the governing body and are responsible for anti-doping procedures, not USADA". Exactly. It's a bit like the milk marketing board declaring that your grade 5 theory is invalid.Sort of. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) The Open College Network did declare that my grade 5 theory was invalid! When I was taking the Music Access course two years ago the OCN adjudicator would not accept my grade 5 theory pass in 1971 as a substitute for sitting a past grade 5 theory paper to pass their exam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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| Car Expert |
Aug 24 2012, 04:30 PM
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Maestro Group: Members Posts: 30696 Joined: 15-May 05 From: UK - rural North Norfolk\East Anglia. Lincoln 104 miles. Ipswich 66 miles. Oxford 193 miles. Lewes 199 miles. Member No.: 3680 |
It's been confirmed, Lance Armstrong has been stripped of his 7 Tour de France titles.
Shocker (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Car Expert |
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| mrbouffant |
Aug 24 2012, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(Car Expert @ Aug 24 2012, 05:30 PM) It's been confirmed, Lance Armstrong has been stripped of his 7 Tour de France titles. Shocker (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Car Expert Surely it is for the awarding body to strip him of his titles, not the USADA? |
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| Aquarelle |
Aug 25 2012, 09:56 AM
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French TV news seems to be saying that it is the UCI alone that has the power to remove Lance 's French titles.
Actually I think they are a bit miffed by the Americans whom they obviously think are somewhat unilateral- after all it is not the Tour des Etats-Unis. |
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| Arundodonuts |
Aug 25 2012, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Aug 24 2012, 05:43 PM) QUOTE(Car Expert @ Aug 24 2012, 05:30 PM) It's been confirmed, Lance Armstrong has been stripped of his 7 Tour de France titles. Shocker (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Car Expert Surely it is for the awarding body to strip him of his titles, not the USADA? USADA can choose not to recognise his wins but it would be up to the UCI to definitively delete those results. Typical US unilateralism. Smacks of McCarthy to me. |
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| Flossie |
Aug 26 2012, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Car Expert @ Aug 24 2012, 05:30 PM) It's been confirmed, Lance Armstrong has been stripped of his 7 Tour de France titles. Shocker (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Car Expert No. The USADA is claiming to have 'stripped' him of the titles, but does not have the authority to do so. The UCI - which is the only body can can made decisions about Tour de France titles - has not publically made a decision. On a happier note, Froome is doing well in the Vuelta. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/party1.gif) |
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| barry-clari |
Dec 14 2012, 11:05 AM
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| Arundodonuts |
Dec 14 2012, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(barry-clari @ Dec 14 2012, 11:05 AM) 'appen. I've already seen it referred to as "t'our de France". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Cyrilla |
Dec 14 2012, 03:19 PM
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Maestro Group: Members Posts: 11902 Joined: 9-November 03 From: Croydon, South London/Surrey Member No.: 99 |
QUOTE(Arundodonuts @ Dec 14 2012, 01:10 PM) QUOTE(barry-clari @ Dec 14 2012, 11:05 AM) 'appen. I've already seen it referred to as "t'our de France". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| Impressionist |
Dec 14 2012, 03:24 PM
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