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Pixie*Porsche
post May 8 2009, 09:44 AM
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As you all most probably know I'm a petrolhead as well a classic car enthusiast.

Personally I think this proposal is stupid, new cars have to be built, old ones have already been built.

Some modern classics / classics will be scrapped for no good reason. If the government had there way they'd like to scrap all three of my current cars -
MGB Roadster
Mk. 1 MX5 project
Porsche 944

Why anyone would want to drive an overassisted box (aka new car) is beyond me.
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post May 8 2009, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(Nicia-Clarinet-Flute @ May 8 2009, 10:44 AM) *

As you all most probably know I'm a petrolhead as well a classic car enthusiast.

Why anyone would want to drive an overassisted box (aka new car) is beyond me.

Hmm, let's see now. Comfort, convenience, reliability. Oh and speed. I remember a mate of mine back in the 80s being pretty peeved that I could keep up with his MGB in my Fiesta 1300 Sport (very old hat stuff now). It was also huge fun to drive (for as long as it remained on its wheels - oops (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) ).

I used to think classics were pretty cool but I can only think of one I would really want to make garage space for - Austin Healey 3000. It's unlikely ever to happen.
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post May 8 2009, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(Nicia-Clarinet-Flute @ May 8 2009, 10:44 AM) *

Why anyone would want to drive an overassisted box (aka new car) is beyond me.


Reliabilaty! but I have to agree that there boring! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Used to have a 944, they look so much better than the 924!
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post May 8 2009, 10:35 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Classics aren't all about speed but you can make them fast!

What 944 did you have? This is my second I've had a 2.5 lux and now got an S2.

Reliability - nah, old ones are easier to fix and cheaper parts in general!
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post May 8 2009, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(pushpull @ May 8 2009, 08:33 AM) *

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What do folk think of the new "car scrappage scheme"? I think that this thinly disguised "environmental measure" is actually an attempt to give the ailing car industry a boost.

I didn't think it was thinly disguised.

Quote from "Department of Business":

"The UK scheme, with £300m from Government and matched funding from industry, is intended to provide immediate support on a short-term basis to boost the car industry and its supply chain in the wake of falling sales. It will also get older vehicles off the road and encourage consumers to invest in new, safer, and potentially more environmentally friendly models".



So will consumers get grants to enable them to "invest in ........ new models"?
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post May 8 2009, 02:13 PM
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So will consumers get grants to enable them to "invest in ........ new models"?

The "grant" is the £2000 "trade in" being given against your 10 year old car.
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post May 8 2009, 03:46 PM
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Must admit, I thought the scheme sounded great and was thinking of taking the £2000 for my 12 year old Renault Clio while the going is good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The only thing stopping me was the thought of increased insurance premiums for the new car with a 19 year old son as a named driver, and of course the money!

I would never normally buy a new car (I've only had 2 cars in the last 25 years, and they were both bought secondhand at about 18 months old), but the scheme at least made me think about it, which seems to be the government's aim. It's likely that I shall have to replace my car in another 3 years anyway, as the bodywork usually starts to let me down at around 15 years old, so bringing the purchase forward isn't out of the question.
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QUOTE(Nicia-Clarinet-Flute @ May 8 2009, 11:35 AM) *

What 944 did you have? This is my second I've had a 2.5 lux and now got an S2.


86 turbo, left hand drive import. The previous owner had taken the turbo off and swopped the manifolds with a 2.5(i think) cause he couldnt afford a new turbo. Was going to put it back to standard, but before i had time a mate borrowed it and had an argument with a tree and wall, just wasnt worth fixing after (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post May 8 2009, 08:40 PM
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They have a similar system here but I missed out as we changed our car 18 months ago and won't be buying a new or a second hand car for some years now. The problem caused here is that the car breakers now have no room to stock cars and the price of metal for re-cycling has fallen to rock bottom. One man"s meat .....

Formerly we were the owners of what must have been one of the oldest R4 vans in France. We called her OVNI (Objet Volant Non Identifié) and she cheerfully carted floorboards, bags of cement, lawnmowers and large dogs until one day she gave up the gasket with a great oily sigh. She's been replaced by a VWPolo with a roll back roof - only we've locked ourselves out and lost the key!

Our "best" car is a Laguna. I think they're rather looked down on at the moment but I'm sure her hour of glory will come.

The nicest car I ever owned was a bright red brand new Fiat 500 called "Liza". She chugged me everywhere and I was in love with her. Those were the days!
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post May 9 2009, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(Czerny @ May 8 2009, 08:51 AM) *
QUOTE(Miss Ross @ May 7 2009, 10:09 PM) *
Hopefully there'll just be fewer cars and therefore less pollution, both environmental and otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I think the world where fewer cars are driven is the one where aeroplanes are piloted by pigs...
I think the pig idea is more likely to happen.
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QUOTE(BerkshireMum @ May 8 2009, 04:46 PM) *

Must admit, I thought the scheme sounded great and was thinking of taking the £2000 for my 12 year old Renault Clio while the going is good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The only thing stopping me was the thought of increased insurance premiums for the new car with a 19 year old son as a named driver, and of course the money!




My Dad is looking at taking this offer up to trade in his Lucida. The £2000 is only a bit less than he paid when importing it from Japan. I'm quite sad as it's a great size for transpoting large musical instruments. He's doing it save on fuel and as he thought insurance. He then discovered that his new (whateve)r is only marignally cheaper than the old MPV.
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post May 11 2009, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(notmusimum @ May 9 2009, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(BerkshireMum @ May 8 2009, 04:46 PM) *

Must admit, I thought the scheme sounded great and was thinking of taking the £2000 for my 12 year old Renault Clio while the going is good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The only thing stopping me was the thought of increased insurance premiums for the new car with a 19 year old son as a named driver, and of course the money!




My Dad is looking at taking this offer up to trade in his Lucida. The £2000 is only a bit less than he paid when importing it from Japan. I'm quite sad as it's a great size for transpoting large musical instruments. He's doing it save on fuel and as he thought insurance. He then discovered that his new (whateve)r is only marignally cheaper than the old MPV.
A Lucida?! Don't get rid of that - they're amazing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) They still look like spaceships twelve years on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(mwl1 @ May 11 2009, 01:00 PM) *

QUOTE(notmusimum @ May 9 2009, 09:16 PM) *

My Dad is looking at taking this offer up to trade in his Lucida. The £2000 is only a bit less than he paid when importing it from Japan. I'm quite sad as it's a great size for transpoting large musical instruments. He's doing it save on fuel and as he thought insurance. He then discovered that his new (whateve)r is only marignally cheaper than the old MPV.
A Lucida?! Don't get rid of that - they're amazing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) They still look like spaceships twelve years on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I remember seeing a Renault Espace (the original one) in Chamonix just after they had come out. That was seriously a jaw dropping moment. The Renault Avantgarde had a similar effect more recently. Shame they're Renaults really. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(mwl1 @ May 11 2009, 01:00 PM) *

QUOTE(notmusimum @ May 9 2009, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(BerkshireMum @ May 8 2009, 04:46 PM) *

Must admit, I thought the scheme sounded great and was thinking of taking the £2000 for my 12 year old Renault Clio while the going is good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The only thing stopping me was the thought of increased insurance premiums for the new car with a 19 year old son as a named driver, and of course the money!




My Dad is looking at taking this offer up to trade in his Lucida. The £2000 is only a bit less than he paid when importing it from Japan. I'm quite sad as it's a great size for transpoting large musical instruments. He's doing it save on fuel and as he thought insurance. He then discovered that his new (whateve)r is only marignally cheaper than the old MPV.
A Lucida?! Don't get rid of that - they're amazing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) They still look like spaceships twelve years on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



The deed is done I'm afraid. If I could afford two cars I would keep it, but I can't so that's out of the question.
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post May 12 2009, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(pushpull @ May 11 2009, 02:46 PM) *
QUOTE(mwl1 @ May 11 2009, 01:00 PM) *

QUOTE(notmusimum @ May 9 2009, 09:16 PM) *

My Dad is looking at taking this offer up to trade in his Lucida. The £2000 is only a bit less than he paid when importing it from Japan. I'm quite sad as it's a great size for transpoting large musical instruments. He's doing it save on fuel and as he thought insurance. He then discovered that his new (whateve)r is only marignally cheaper than the old MPV.
A Lucida?! Don't get rid of that - they're amazing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) They still look like spaceships twelve years on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I remember seeing a Renault Espace (the original one) in Chamonix just after they had come out. That was seriously a jaw dropping moment. The Renault Avantgarde had a similar effect more recently. Shame they're Renaults really. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The Renault Avantime was wonderful! I'd have had one if all other things added up to it! Pity they stopped making them, but hardly surprising... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) What is wrong with Renaults?!



QUOTE(notmusimum @ May 11 2009, 10:44 PM) *
QUOTE(mwl1 @ May 11 2009, 01:00 PM) *

QUOTE(notmusimum @ May 9 2009, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(BerkshireMum @ May 8 2009, 04:46 PM) *

Must admit, I thought the scheme sounded great and was thinking of taking the £2000 for my 12 year old Renault Clio while the going is good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The only thing stopping me was the thought of increased insurance premiums for the new car with a 19 year old son as a named driver, and of course the money!


My Dad is looking at taking this offer up to trade in his Lucida. The £2000 is only a bit less than he paid when importing it from Japan. I'm quite sad as it's a great size for transpoting large musical instruments. He's doing it save on fuel and as he thought insurance. He then discovered that his new (whateve)r is only marignally cheaper than the old MPV.
A Lucida?! Don't get rid of that - they're amazing!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) They still look like spaceships twelve years on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The deed is done I'm afraid. If I could afford two cars I would keep it, but I can't so that's out of the question.
Ah well... One day! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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