May I Make A Public Apology. Options

[DaisyChain]

Sorry to go off topic : but I know nothing about organs, when an organ cyphers, what does that mean? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ...

I think somebody has said somewhere, that it's a note that sounds when you don't ask it to..and then won't stop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

HG beat me to it!

[Holz Gedeckt]

HG beat me to it!

Nothing new there, then, DC! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[barry-clari]

Sorry to go off topic : but I know nothing about organs, when an organ cyphers, what does that mean? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ...

When an organ ciphers, it means that a note is sounding which isn't wanted.

aah, I see, thanks (and thanks for the spelling correction!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The thread makes a lot more sense to me now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[DaisyChain]

Nothing new there, then, DC! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Go play with your.....Bach! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Holz Gedeckt]

Nothing new there, then, DC! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Go play with your.....Bach! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Sorry to go off topic : but I know nothing about organs, when an organ cyphers, what does that mean? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ...

When an organ ciphers, it means that a note is sounding which isn't wanted.

aah, I see, thanks (and thanks for the spelling correction!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The thread makes a lot more sense to me now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You're welcome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[mwl1]

Children... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[DaisyChain]

Children... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

He started it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Holz Gedeckt]

Children... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yup! 'orrible things.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Swell Box]

All new organs are prone to ciphering, by the way. It takes a while for them to 'settle down'.

And not just new organs either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

SB

[Holz Gedeckt]

All new organs are prone to ciphering, by the way. It takes a while for them to 'settle down'.

And not just new organs either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

SB

'tis true.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Vox Humana]

I have played the Marlborough organ a couple of times and it is indeed a very nice machine. On both occasions I also had a crawl around inside. The quality of the work is just gobsmacking. Everything is beautifully finished; there is no skimping on the bits that are hidden from the public eye. There is nothing shoddy about this organ.

I can understand how infuriating it must have been that the thing chose to cipher in your exam, but, as pointed out, it does take time for a new organ to settle down. At least you can console yourself with the fact that you are in good company. Apparently it also ciphered during Simon Preston's inaugural recital!

[Barry Williams]

Hello.

Last year I took my grade 8 exam on the new Beckerath Organ at Marlborough College Chapel. It had been installed at the end of 2007.

Unfortunately when I took my exam parts of the organ cyiphered on me. I believe I posted a comment explaining my annoyance and possibly over exaggerating things a bit too much.

Well. Through the powers of the internet, The chapel director of music who let me use the organ (despite the fact that I am not a student at the college) found the post.

He was not happy. He wants my organ tutors e-mail or address to contact him.

I understand that at the time, the organ not working seemed like a bad thing. However, I dismissed it claiming that there are more important things to worry about. Unfortunately I had already posted the comment and it never occured to me to delete it.

I would like to publicly apologise to anyone who may have been offended by the post. I over exaggerated things beyond what they where.

The organ is one of the best organ around and the builder is reputable. I also understand that has the organ is new, it takes time to settle in and problems can occur.

I will be e-mailing the director of music to apologise but, has I posted the comment on here, I thought I'd post this reply here as well.

Thank you for your support in this matter

I have read the original post (the one that gave rise to the complaint) with great care. In my opinion there is nothing there that would cause offence, though some might feel upset that you reported how a new and favourite organ ciphered at a crucial moment - lots of organs do that anyway.

The reaction provoked seems, on the face of it, to be disproportional. Possibly there is another agenda here or facts that are not reported.

However, this forum, in common with others, is read by many more people than those who subscribe to it. For that reason everyone should exercise some care with the words used. You appear to have taken care. Your original report is quite factual. I am very sorry that the situation has arisen.

As someone else has pointed out, it is worthwhile contacting the moderator and asking that the original post is removed; possibly the whole thread should be deleted.

There are folk around who have powerful search engines that seek out references to unusual words or names. It may be that this is how your original post was found.

Barry Williams

[Susie]

Maybe it's organists in particular, as I've experience something similar on another forum; they seem to get very touchy very easily!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Well, that's organists for you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Barry Williams]

Possibly.

Musicians tend to be rather sensitive, but organists work, by and large, in churches and these are notorious for back-biting, gossip and thorough unpleasantness. The usual laws of defamation apply to posts as to anything else. There is no immunity or anonymity on these Fora.

I have suffered only one unpleasant experience over postings. A member of another Board deliberately and dishonestly misquoted me in the apparent hope of making life difficult in my post as Organs Adviser on the Oxford DAC. It back-fired very badly indeed on the other person, but I immediately withdrew my membership of that Board. Since then others have also had nasty experiences. This place seems much happier and, if I may say so, rather more intellectual. It is certainly more musical.

I hope that my reply to Organist No 1' s post of 12th June does not appear too pompous. I intended it to carry full legal weight. I am happy for my remarks to be quoted - provided they are quoted in full, of course. The original posting that caused the offence is of no particular moment, but is now best removed and the whole matter put down to experience.

Barry Williams