Grade 5 Aural Test B Options

[stev_mus]

I am a teacher, but wondered whether (recent)piano exam entrants have dared to sing, QUIETLY, under their breath the IN BETWEEN intervals in the 3rd and 4th intervals in this test, ie. done it in the actual exam; AND got way with it. I know there is the other method of using specific songs for up and down major/minor 3rds and perfect 4ths; but my pupils sometimes find it a problem.
Thanks

Steve

[Hotair]

I am a teacher, but wondered whether (recent)piano exam entrants have dared to sing, QUIETLY, under their breath the IN BETWEEN intervals in the 3rd and 4th intervals in this test, ie. done it in the actual exam; AND got way with it. I know there is the other method of using specific songs for up and down major/minor 3rds and perfect 4ths; but my pupils sometimes find it a problem.
Thanks

Steve

I would not do so but if a candidate did so I am sure that full marks would not be awarded. The test is marked on the ability to pitch intervals.

I am a teacher but have recently taken Grade 5 piano. If a note is sung and it is not correct the examiner will immediately play the correct note so that the candidate is back on track and can pitch the next interval. How would the examiner know that the note sung very quietly is not to be marked?

[stev_mus]

I am a teacher, but wondered whether (recent)piano exam entrants have dared to sing, QUIETLY, under their breath the IN BETWEEN intervals in the 3rd and 4th intervals in this test, ie. done it in the actual exam; AND got way with it. I know there is the other method of using specific songs for up and down major/minor 3rds and perfect 4ths; but my pupils sometimes find it a problem.
Thanks

Steve

I would not do so but if a candidate did so I am sure that full marks would not be awarded. The test is marked on the ability to pitch intervals.

I am a teacher but have recently taken Grade 5 piano. If a note is sung and it is not correct the examiner will immediately play the correct note so that the candidate is back on track and can pitch the next interval. How would the examiner know that the note sung very quietly is not to be marked?

Thanks;but that is not what I meant. The note they are singing under their breath is an IN BETWEEN note, i.e NOT one of the notes in the given(I do the sight-SUNG method), ie. written, intervals but under their breath to sing, up and down the INTERVENING notes of the relevant scale; in other words, where there is a jump of a 4th or major or minor 3rd, they sing the 1 or 2 notes in between the WRITTEN notes, under their breath. I take what you say as meaning the examiner would CORRECT(by playing the REALLY correct note immeditely afterwards, as a kind of correct pitch yardstick), but I am talking about singing quietly, under the breath, any INTERVENING nortes where there is an interval of more than a 2nd, so that they can judge the interval better; and, thus, whether, if the examiner happened to hear, he would see this as "cheating", ie. you SHOULD be able to sing down/up ALL the intervals, required for Grade 5, SILENTLY, ie in your head, by memory of intervals or by using the "famous tunes with the relevant intervals method", to which i referred.Any relevant experiences welcomed!:)Thanks Steve

[Aquarelle]

I'm afraid I am rather inclined to think they would lose marks. But can they not "sing" the intervening notes silently in their heads?

I think you may simply have to do more work on pitching intervals. My pupils seem to find practising up or down from either side of the tonic quite helpful. I don't use the tunes method because I think it only works for one interval, not a series - my pupils wouldn't know the standard English tunes anyway and certainly wouldn't have an equivalent French repertoire.

Or could they tackle it via solfa? I expect if they aren't used to hat it might be a bit late to start but it might help as the intervals between the sofla names are always the same.