Intermediate clarinet thread

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mizcutiepielivzi	Sep 9 2011, 05:01 PM Post #16
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 2-January 11 Member No.: 182198	@barri-clari i think playing a cornet also helps you increase your lung capacity and you learnt how to read your music. i find it funny that clarinet has also helped me with my volin! (WEIRD...) @violinqueen: i think your right, but not sure? can anyone confirm whether you could do that? i thought it was just the right hand e key that you could do that with? Anyone have problems on g4 scales? its the d that i'm worried about as i find it difficult to play the notes evenly and smoothly, espeacially in slur. i need help with altissimo register!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) anyone else have that problem?

oldromola	Sep 9 2011, 05:29 PM Post #17
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 347 Joined: 7-June 09 Member No.: 67427	Just seen this thread and passed grade 6 in July. I played the Edward German 'Romance' and the Hindemith 'Sonata' first movement - marvellous piece! The best marks I got were for aural though, 18, about which I was quite pleased.

mizcutiepielivzi	Sep 10 2011, 11:03 AM Post #18
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 2-January 11 Member No.: 182198	QUOTE(oldromola @ Sep 9 2011, 06:29 PM) Just seen this thread and passed grade 6 in July. I played the Edward German 'Romance' and the Hindemith 'Sonata' first movement - marvellous piece! The best marks I got were for aural though, 18, about which I was quite pleased. congrats!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/party1.gif)

barry-clari	Sep 10 2011, 11:09 AM Post #19
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40564 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(CJB @ Sep 9 2011, 10:03 AM) 1st guess is better air support and less fear of loud noises. Playing sax and bass clarinet really opened up my upper altissimo on clari Yep, that sounds plausible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

louise1712	Sep 10 2011, 04:43 PM Post #20
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 7165 Joined: 19-June 09 From: North Yorkshire Member No.: 68484	QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 9 2011, 06:01 PM) Anyone have problems on g4 scales? its the d that i'm worried about as i find it difficult to play the notes evenly and smoothly, espeacially in slur. i need help with altissimo register!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) anyone else have that problem? Yep (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) most of the pieces I've been working on recently have purposely had lots of altissimo notes. Also now working more on scales than I have done for a while.

sbhoa	Sep 10 2011, 05:04 PM Post #21
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 18911 Joined: 31-October 03 From: Tameside Member No.: 24	QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 9 2011, 06:01 PM) i need help with altissimo register!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) anyone else have that problem? Take it slowly. One note at a time. Lots of harmonics practice. Don't force it. Don't just finger the note and hope, go to it from the 'related' clarion note first. Though all of that is probably what your teacher is already saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

barry-clari	Sep 11 2011, 08:54 AM Post #22
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40564 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(sbhoa @ Sep 10 2011, 06:04 PM) QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 9 2011, 06:01 PM) i need help with altissimo register!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) anyone else have that problem? Take it slowly. One note at a time. Lots of harmonics practice. Don't force it. Don't just finger the note and hope, go to it from the 'related' clarion note first. Though all of that is probably what your teacher is already saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Can't argue with the above. Would add that biting in any way is a bad thing, and make sure the reed you're using is in good shape : a dirty/chipped/worn reed is no good for altissimo notes.

mizcutiepielivzi	Sep 11 2011, 04:29 PM Post #23
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 2-January 11 Member No.: 182198	QUOTE(sbhoa @ Sep 10 2011, 06:04 PM) QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 9 2011, 06:01 PM) i need help with altissimo register!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) anyone else have that problem? Take it slowly. One note at a time. Lots of harmonics practice. Don't force it. Don't just finger the note and hope, go to it from the 'related' clarion note first. Though all of that is probably what your teacher is already saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) yep... they come out but they sound shrill! EWWW is like a dying cat!

sbhoa	Sep 11 2011, 04:42 PM Post #24
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 18911 Joined: 31-October 03 From: Tameside Member No.: 24	QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 11 2011, 05:29 PM) QUOTE(sbhoa @ Sep 10 2011, 06:04 PM) QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 9 2011, 06:01 PM) i need help with altissimo register!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) anyone else have that problem? Take it slowly. One note at a time. Lots of harmonics practice. Don't force it. Don't just finger the note and hope, go to it from the 'related' clarion note first. Though all of that is probably what your teacher is already saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) yep... they come out but they sound shrill! EWWW is like a dying cat! It's something you may need to take your time with. Get one secure before moving upwards. It can be a slowish job. Remember they need plenty of support. If you get into the habit of supporting all notes properly it helps. I know it's something I can be careless about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

louise1712	Sep 11 2011, 06:20 PM Post #25
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 7165 Joined: 19-June 09 From: North Yorkshire Member No.: 68484	QUOTE(barry-clari @ Sep 11 2011, 09:54 AM) Can't argue with the above. Would add that biting in any way is a bad thing, and make sure the reed you're using is in good shape : a dirty/chipped/worn reed is no good for altissimo notes. New reed for practice today, what a difference. Should really remember that reeds need changing by now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

barry-clari	Sep 12 2011, 07:31 AM Post #26
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 40564 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804	QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 11 2011, 05:29 PM) QUOTE(sbhoa @ Sep 10 2011, 06:04 PM) QUOTE(mizcutiepielivzi @ Sep 9 2011, 06:01 PM) i need help with altissimo register!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) anyone else have that problem? Take it slowly. One note at a time. Lots of harmonics practice. Don't force it. Don't just finger the note and hope, go to it from the 'related' clarion note first. Though all of that is probably what your teacher is already saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) yep... they come out but they sound shrill! EWWW is like a dying cat! Sounds like you're trying to get more than one note perfect at the same time. Do them one at a time (ie get C# secure before moving on to D). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

lois	Sep 12 2011, 08:24 AM Post #27
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 692 Joined: 14-November 08 From: Walsall - West Mids Member No.: 44946	QUOTE(louise1712 @ Sep 11 2011, 07:20 PM) New reed for practice today, what a difference. Should really remember that reeds need changing by now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I've just gone onto a La Voz medium reed after finding one in a multi pack I bought a while ago. I love it, get a really warm sound and it's very easy blowing

smd	Sep 12 2011, 10:52 AM Post #28
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 2-May 08 From: Surrey Member No.: 30202	QUOTE(sbhoa @ Sep 10 2011, 06:04 PM) Take it slowly. One note at a time. Lots of harmonics practice. Don't force it. Don't just finger the note and hope, go to it from the 'related' clarion note first. Though all of that is probably what your teacher is already saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm interested in your post Sbhoa, as it's not what my teacher is telling me - other than the one note at a time bit. I'm not having particular problems with the altissmo notes - well not up to G anyway (after that its largely uncharted terotoritry at the moment) So maybe thats why my teacher hasn't offered any advice, but what do you mean by harmonics practice? and by related clarion note do you mean going from d to d and e to e etc? Personally I know I need to practice reading the higher notes as after about d, it takes me too long to work out what the note is at the moment. Thanks

sbhoa	Sep 12 2011, 03:41 PM Post #29
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 18911 Joined: 31-October 03 From: Tameside Member No.: 24	QUOTE(smd @ Sep 12 2011, 11:52 AM) QUOTE(sbhoa @ Sep 10 2011, 06:04 PM) Take it slowly. One note at a time. Lots of harmonics practice. Don't force it. Don't just finger the note and hope, go to it from the 'related' clarion note first. Though all of that is probably what your teacher is already saying. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm interested in your post Sbhoa, as it's not what my teacher is telling me - other than the one note at a time bit. I'm not having particular problems with the altissmo notes - well not up to G anyway (after that its largely uncharted terotoritry at the moment) So maybe thats why my teacher hasn't offered any advice, but what do you mean by harmonics practice? and by related clarion note do you mean going from d to d and e to e etc? Personally I know I need to practice reading the higher notes as after about d, it takes me too long to work out what the note is at the moment. Thanks I'd start harmonics around the time of the move to clarion notes by (for example) playing middle C, add the register key to get the G then release the register key but keep the G going. Another exercise is to play up chromatically from bottom line F up to A but alternate each note with the upper register note (the next harmonic) without using the register key. Finding the upper harmonic straight off is good too. A useful more recent one is to play Eb (bottom line) then find the next two harmonics (Bb and F#) without the register key. Then see if you can find them in a random order without splitting notes. This sort of thing not only helps with production and quality of higher notes but it helps to build flexibility between registers. By related clarion notes I mean approach altissimo notes in a similar fashion to the way I described the C to G exercise. Play F (top line) then slide off the to LH finger to get the D and so on. You need to make sure that the lower notes is good quality.

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