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> When to Upgrade Instrument, ~preparing for grade 6~
delicato
post Jul 15 2011, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(Hooplah @ Jul 15 2011, 11:28 AM) *

I'm going to stop looking at this thread, it's going to cost me money - as my mornings web browsing history would attest to... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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post Jul 16 2011, 01:33 PM
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions!

QUOTE(lottie @ Jul 14 2011, 03:59 PM) *

Oh cellomi - an upgrade may not be as expensive as you think. It might be worth you trying some cellos out sometime in a shop to give you a better idea.


Thanks, Lottie, I have tried out some cellos that I absolutely love but do not have the $$$ for...

QUOTE(ffliwt @ Jul 15 2011, 05:12 PM) *

...at the same time, it's nice to have an instrument you can grow into and know that it is your forever violin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm fairly sure that's what i have now.
If you can part ex the instruments in as you upgrade them it wont end up costing you any more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Ffliwt, I think this is true in a general sense, as instruments are "swapped" up for the next level; but surely, one cannot sell off a modest student-model for a sufficient amount to make a difference in the upgrade cost? How much of the original value should I be thinking of recouping?
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post Jul 16 2011, 01:39 PM
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How much were you looking at spending? If it was one of the 'mass produced' makes eg. stentor etc. then you wouldnt but if it's a hand made instrument some shops would give you 100% back for part ex (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 16 2011, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(ffliwt @ Jul 16 2011, 02:39 PM) *

How much were you looking at spending? If it was one of the 'mass produced' makes eg. stentor etc. then you wouldnt but if it's a hand made instrument some shops would give you 100% back for part ex (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


but only if you bought it from them in the first place.
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post Jul 16 2011, 07:12 PM
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Yes i forgot to add that - very important!! Thanks DiscoPants
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:05 AM
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Well, my cello is a hand-carved student model (from china).
The shop I bought it from will take it back at 1/3 the original price if I purchase another cello from them
but others have told me that I might be able to get a better price selling it on my own... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jul 19 2011, 07:19 AM
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I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread! Nothing to add but - some great stories!
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post Jul 19 2011, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(celloml @ Jul 19 2011, 03:05 AM) *

Well, my cello is a hand-carved student model (from china).
The shop I bought it from will take it back at 1/3 the original price if I purchase another cello from them
but others have told me that I might be able to get a better price selling it on my own... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Yep, you probably will...it's like trading your car in at a dealer - you'll never get as much as you might get selling it privately.

I started off on a school-loan instrument til I got to Grade 3 - then I bought a ?150 violin (it was about 15 years ago) that my teacher found me. I used that til Grade 7, but it really wasn't good enough for Grade 7...but I couldn't afford anything else. It reflected in my marks I got in my Grade 7 (a pass)

I didn't upgrade until I was an adult, and I spent about ?1k on my current instrument, plus another ?250 on a bow. I'm loving it at the moment, but I can see a time when I might want to upgrade further...but it's got plenty of playing left in it yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(celloml @ Jul 19 2011, 03:05 AM) *

Well, my cello is a hand-carved student model (from china).
The shop I bought it from will take it back at 1/3 the original price if I purchase another cello from them
but others have told me that I might be able to get a better price selling it on my own... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


What about selling on e-bay? and fix a reserve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(delicato @ Jul 20 2011, 04:11 PM) *

QUOTE(celloml @ Jul 19 2011, 03:05 AM) *

Well, my cello is a hand-carved student model (from china).
The shop I bought it from will take it back at 1/3 the original price if I purchase another cello from them
but others have told me that I might be able to get a better price selling it on my own... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


What about selling on e-bay? and fix a reserve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


E-bay now charges really high fees, especially if you take payment through Paypal. You have to give 10% of the selling price plus listing fees plus paypal fees if you take payment that way.
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E-bay now charges really high fees, especially if you take payment through Paypal. You have to give 10% of the selling price plus listing fees plus paypal fees if you take payment that way.

true, I sold my double bass through an ad on Gumtree, it was much better (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(though I did sell 4 violins on eBay (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) 2 to people 'down the road' though so it was 'cash' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif), I 'cancelled' the ad on Ebay and avoided ALL fees (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif))
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post Jul 20 2011, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(Violin Hero @ Jul 20 2011, 07:15 PM) *

QUOTE(delicato @ Jul 20 2011, 04:11 PM) *

QUOTE(celloml @ Jul 19 2011, 03:05 AM) *

Well, my cello is a hand-carved student model (from china).
The shop I bought it from will take it back at 1/3 the original price if I purchase another cello from them
but others have told me that I might be able to get a better price selling it on my own... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


What about selling on e-bay? and fix a reserve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


E-bay now charges really high fees, especially if you take payment through Paypal. You have to give 10% of the selling price plus listing fees plus paypal fees if you take payment that way.


Ho --- did not know as i never use e-bay. But useful to know - thank you. But i suppose if you get a good price for it????

Perhaps rent it out???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 20 2011, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(jojo @ Jul 20 2011, 07:20 PM) *

(though I did sell 4 violins on eBay (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) 2 to people 'down the road' though so it was 'cash' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif), I 'cancelled' the ad on Ebay and avoided ALL fees (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif))



Jojo, how many violins have you had? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(ffliwt @ Jul 20 2011, 07:32 PM) *

QUOTE(jojo @ Jul 20 2011, 07:20 PM) *

(though I did sell 4 violins on eBay (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) 2 to people 'down the road' though so it was 'cash' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif), I 'cancelled' the ad on Ebay and avoided ALL fees (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif))



Jojo, how many violins have you had? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

mmmmmm (thinks and counts on fingertips.....)

SIX (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (one was a good yamaha electric)

that's nothing compared to what some people have (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

(and a double bass now gone)

I currently have Eowyn and a cheap and cheerful 7/8 which I have never really played so don't even know what it sounds like (played it once for five minutes many moons ago).
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post Jul 21 2011, 01:51 AM
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gumtree's not too bad an idea...
It's just that, when I've seen ads for cellos I was interested in, the posters never did reply to my queries! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
maybe their ads had expired or they don't get email notification of queries?

I'm always wary of stuff on e-bay so I wouldn't blame anyone for believing that there's something desperately wrong with my cello and I'm trying to rip them off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Might be worth trying though.

Jojo, do you know it's "illegal" to pull down an ebay ad so you can complete the transaction externally? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Don't blame you, I know of folks who've done it for musical instruments. I guess you just have to "try it out" before you will commit to making purchase of an instrument you've not known hithertofore.
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