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> Fake Qualification, Bought ones too
YetAnotherPianist
post Jun 2 2007, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(Manek @ Jun 2 2007, 04:30 PM) *

I'm not sure how anyone can try to regulate somebody's name...


There is that. I also wonder if there are rules about not giving out another organisation's postnominals - for instance, could I write a constitution for the recordings site and award 'Forum Recordings Site Member'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).

I agree with elidatrading - enlighten us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
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post Jun 2 2007, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Jun 2 2007, 08:43 PM) *

There is that. I also wonder if there are rules about not giving out another organisation's postnominals - for instance, could I write a constitution for the recordings site and award 'Forum Recordings Site Member'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).

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QUOTE(cellocase @ Jun 2 2007, 08:46 PM) *

QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Jun 2 2007, 08:43 PM) *

There is that. I also wonder if there are rules about not giving out another organisation's postnominals - for instance, could I write a constitution for the recordings site and award 'Forum Recordings Site Member'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).

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Go on... You know you want to! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Jun 2 2007, 08:44 PM
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I can't go into details, but when I started my present job, I had a terrible time having to prove all my qualifications and they even wanted proof of where I was working 20 years ago. I had to explain that the place in question was now a housing estate and it might be tricky. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

A few years later, our Director left for a new job as a government advisor (not the UK). Then a newspaper revealed that his PhD had been bought from the USA. He didn't lose his job!

One law for them.... another for us?

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post Jun 2 2007, 08:47 PM
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Manek - your post is offensive. An apology might be in order.
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post Jun 2 2007, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Jun 2 2007, 08:43 PM) *

I agree with elidatrading - enlighten us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

Me too! What do you have to do to get them? I asked several pages ago, and am still awaiting a reply. I hope you won't think I'm trolling if I state that if it's not explained I'm likely to think the worst (and am also likely to reprint my business cards to incorporate my HonFBCM (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)).

Liz - circumcision by a cat or a hamster? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I'm VERY glad that's specifically prohibited!
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QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Jun 3 2007, 05:43 AM) *

QUOTE(Manek @ Jun 2 2007, 04:30 PM) *

I'm not sure how anyone can try to regulate somebody's name...


There is that. I also wonder if there are rules about not giving out another organisation's postnominals - for instance, could I write a constitution for the recordings site and award 'Forum Recordings Site Member'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).

I agree with elidatrading - enlighten us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Brilliant YAP!
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Meanwhile, I googled the qualifications I don't recognise, and have listed them below.

MNCMSoc - Member of the National College of Music
ANSCM - Associate Norwich School of Church Music
FIGOC - Fellow of the Irish Guild of Organists & Choristers


I'm not so sure google produced the results I was looking for with these (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) -
FASC - Florida Association of Student Councils
LGMS - Local Growth Management Strategy
FFLM - "The ultimate PC-based fantasy football software program that can create a custom web site for your league"
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post Jun 2 2007, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(dcmbarton @ Jun 1 2007, 09:47 PM) *

All mine are perfectly genuine qualifications or letters I am entitled to use as being a member of a society or similar organisation.

So if you were asked to list your qualifications, would you include your memberships? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Or would you think this was misleading?

I guess in some regards a membership listed as a qualification would be a 'fake qualification' of sorts, in so far as it might look like one when it isn't.
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post Jun 2 2007, 10:22 PM
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So if you were asked to list your qualifications, would you include your memberships? Or would you think this was misleading?


Having letters after your name does not mean they are qualifications. David made a very good point when he pointed out how they can be used to draw attention to certain interests and organisations.

How is it any different from many of the 'signatures' in the forum.

e.g. Mr A.N. Other Dip Clarinet, Grade 2 comb 'n paper, peri teacher... etc.

They aren't qualifications but serve to tell people a little about this person.

As long as it's not done to commit fraud, you can put anything after your name.

Some letters do represent a qualification, but may be obtained indirectly. If you have a degree in Biology (or related) you can join the Institute of Biology and use the letters MIBiol and CBiol. You can also gain them without a degree, but by proving to the Institute that you are of sufficiently high standard.

Like wise with the Institute of Linguists. A degree in a language can get you a MCIL.

When do most people use these? Unless you're a show-off, have an inferiority/superiority complex, then not very often, and not in everyday life, but when you're writing on a specific-interest forum, then I think they're very relevant.

Just do a google search on David's letters. Very interesting!

Steve SCFPS (swimming certificates from Primary school) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE(stevensfo @ Jun 2 2007, 11:22 PM) *

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So if you were asked to list your qualifications, would you include your memberships? Or would you think this was misleading?

They aren't qualifications but serve to tell people a little about this person.

As long as it's not done to commit fraud, you can put anything after your name.

Good point,

(with the proviso that you don't use letters which are legally protected)
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Things which start with "F" seem particularly useful. I have a FHC (Food Hygiene Certificate) from a Business school and a St John's Ambulance FAC (First Aid Certificate). Next I shall be looking at courses which start with "F" and have four or more words in the title as these seem more impressive.

Alicia FHC(Bus), FAC(St John).
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QUOTE(ajm3212 @ Jun 2 2007, 09:47 PM) *

Manek - your post is offensive. An apology might be in order.


In what way??
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QUOTE(dcmbarton @ Jun 2 2007, 10:51 PM) *

QUOTE(Deborah @ Jun 2 2007, 10:41 PM) *

QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Jun 2 2007, 08:43 PM) *

I agree with elidatrading - enlighten us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

Me too! What do you have to do to get them? I asked several pages ago, and am still awaiting a reply. I hope you won't think I'm trolling if I state that if it's not explained I'm likely to think the worst

Whether you consider it trolling or not is up to you. If you want to know what they stand for, then PM me and ask. I'm not prepared to post it in this thread, because that wasn't the original intention of it. The original question was:
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So, does anyone on here have any fake qualifications that mean they can put letters after their name, or qualifications they have bought?

David


Good for you David. Why you should be under any obligation to defend or explain yourself is beyond me!
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QUOTE(dcmbarton @ Jun 3 2007, 06:35 PM) *

QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Jun 2 2007, 11:01 PM) *

QUOTE(dcmbarton @ Jun 1 2007, 09:47 PM) *

All mine are perfectly genuine qualifications or letters I am entitled to use as being a member of a society or similar organisation.

So if you were asked to list your qualifications, would you include your memberships? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If specifically asking for qualifications, of course not. You didn't need to ask that question.

David


QUOTE(nic @ Jun 2 2007, 10:58 PM) *

Meanwhile, I googled the qualifications I don't recognise, and have listed them below.

MNCMSoc - Member of the National College of Music
ANSCM - Associate Norwich School of Church Music
FIGOC - Fellow of the Irish Guild of Organists & Choristers


I'm not so sure google produced the results I was looking for with these (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) -
FASC - Florida Association of Student Councils
LGMS - Local Growth Management Strategy
FFLM - "The ultimate PC-based fantasy football software program that can create a custom web site for your league"

I specifically refused to post them in this thread. You have gone against that, and that is unfair. I said that if people wanted to know they can PM me. Some have, and have been surprised.

David


David, I didn't see where you had said that you didn't want to post them. I had read your comment of

"I have worked hard for the qualifications I have gained. I've enjoyed doing them and invested a lot of time and energy into them. Surely, anyone in the same position would want to show this?"

and assumed you wouldn't mind at all. You should be proud of qualifications, and if they are displayed as your signature then obviously you aren't shy about them. Also, I would hope you realise that the last half of my post was meant as a joke (Surely no one would think that you are listing a local growth management strategy as a qualification!)


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