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> Rosin And Strings, Is one better for certain types
Libitina
post Feb 9 2010, 11:38 PM
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Just in case some of you have tried far more of these rosins than I,

Does any one here have a preference to a certain type of rosin for a particular type of string make.

I'm using pirastro T's and Hindersine rosin and was wondering if it actually makes any difference what type of rosin I use, Would the Pirastro rosin be better suited to those strings. ?


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post Feb 9 2010, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(Libitina @ Feb 9 2010, 11:38 PM) *

Just in case some of you have tried far more of these rosins than I,

Does one here have a preference to a certain type of rosin for a particular type of string.

I'm using pirastro T's and Hindersine rosin and was wondering if it actually makes any difference what type of rosin I use, Would the Pirastro rosin be better suited to those strings. ?


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Hi Lib, don't know the answer to your question but just wanted to say:

I have just bought the 'liebenzeller gold' rosin (it's called larica gold now) as with my new bow purchase I wanted to try it out, I've heard so many good things about it and yes, they are all true, it's REALLY GOOD! (I know it's expensive at over £20 but will last for AGES).
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post Feb 9 2010, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(jojo @ Feb 9 2010, 11:44 PM) *

QUOTE(Libitina @ Feb 9 2010, 11:38 PM) *

Just in case some of you have tried far more of these rosins than I,

Does one here have a preference to a certain type of rosin for a particular type of string.

I'm using pirastro T's and Hindersine rosin and was wondering if it actually makes any difference what type of rosin I use, Would the Pirastro rosin be better suited to those strings. ?


Lib

Hi Lib, don't know the answer to your question but just wanted to say:

I have just bought the 'liebenzeller gold' rosin (it's called larica gold now) as with my new bow purchase I wanted to try it out, I've heard so many good things about it and yes, they are all true, it's REALLY GOOD! (I know it's expensive at over £20 but will last for AGES).

Hey, have you decided on a bow now Jo? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Libitina - I don't honestly think rosin brand makes that much difference as long as the rosin you have does its job and you're comfortable with how it feels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I use Kaplan artcraft and really like it - it does it's job well and a little bit goes a long way. However, I chose this because it was one of the rosins which my luthier sells (the other being the lighter Hildersine rosin) and it is much better than the cheap (99p!) orange stuff available locally.
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post Feb 10 2010, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(Flossie @ Feb 9 2010, 11:58 PM) *


Hey, have you decided on a bow now Jo? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


.....almost......
Have decided to play with bow 4 only until tomorrow then pick up bow 3 and if it hadles less well I'll buy bow 4 if it handles same or better will go for 3. Decided not too worry about the sound of it....
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post Feb 10 2010, 06:11 AM
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I use Pirastro Goldflex and honestly it's the best I've tried by far. I wanted to try the Liebenzeller but it was between companies at the time.
I used Hidersine for years just because..it was there!
The Artcraft was okish, and there was one called AB something that was awful.
My daughter uses Eudoxa with her Eudoxa strings and really likes it because it matches! It is a nice one.
I think having tried a few, it does make much more than I originally would have thought.
Therefore it probably means it's another thing down to personal taste (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 10 2010, 12:15 PM
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So I may actually try a couple of others as I get this kind of dry rasp sound after playing for about an hour which I'm hoping that something a littler better will disappear.

thanks all

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I'm also of the opinion that it doesn't really matter as long as you've got one that works and grips the string well, without making too much dust.

I thought that 'you fiddlers' love your dusty coat of rosin on your fiddle and you 'wear it with pride' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 10 2010, 03:17 PM
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I use Laubach GOLD rosin

Its about £15 from the string zone and last ages.

The 2 main reasons I was attracted to this was 1) I read in strings magazine that gold rosin was considered the best (however I suspect that does depend on strings & bow used) 2) hardly any dust comes off.

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post Feb 10 2010, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(rosfrog @ Feb 10 2010, 12:40 PM) *

I'm also of the opinion that it doesn't really matter as long as you've got one that works and grips the string well, without making too much dust.


But, surely if you've spent a slightly silly amount of money on your rosin, and it has 'gold' in its name, it must be improving your playing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

And, just in case it sounds like I'm making fun of any other poster in this thread, I use Laubach Gold rosin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif). I really do like it, but I also think some of the effect just might be down to my imagination. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 10 2010, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(jasca @ Feb 10 2010, 03:27 PM) *

but I also think some of the effect just might be down to my imagination. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

and even if it's 'your imagination' I guess no harm done, placebo effect feels just as good as the real thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I love my liebenzeller gold rosin, I now sound like a new player (erm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I wish! but I do like it, sounds good, minimal/no dust, easier to clean violin)
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post Feb 10 2010, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(jojo @ Feb 10 2010, 03:39 PM) *

and even if it's 'your imagination' I guess no harm done, placebo effect feels just as good as the real thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Absolutely! I think the other big attraction is that it's really the only cheap(ish) thing it's possible to experiment with. Strings, bows, set-up work - all too costly for me. But rosin, well, I can keep buying different brands until I come across the one that really does make my playing sound like gold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).
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post Feb 10 2010, 04:33 PM
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In short, some rosins are better suited to certain types (cored) strings than others.

Dark rosin tends to be quite sticky - good for (wound) gut core strings since they 'speak' slower than synthetic cored strings - while light coloured rosin offers a little less stick - better for 'fast speaking' steel cored strings.

Pirastro do a range of rosins to match their strings and it's not just a marketing ploy, buying Oliv rosin for Oliv strings for example will give the best grip and develop the best tone - assuming of course the hair on your bow is also in top condition (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) If the hair on your bow is worn out, then no amount of any type of rosin will improve it.
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QUOTE(rosfrog @ Feb 10 2010, 12:40 PM) *

I'm an Andreas man, myself (it was called tartini before) - it's superb.

That's the one I use - I agree it's fab (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 12 2010, 12:28 PM
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Thanks all,

very very helpfull.

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post Feb 12 2010, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(jasca @ Feb 10 2010, 03:27 PM) *

QUOTE(rosfrog @ Feb 10 2010, 12:40 PM) *

I'm also of the opinion that it doesn't really matter as long as you've got one that works and grips the string well, without making too much dust.


But, surely if you've spent a slightly silly amount of money on your rosin, and it has 'gold' in its name, it must be improving your playing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

And, just in case it sounds like I'm making fun of any other poster in this thread, I use Laubach Gold rosin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush.gif). I really do like it, but I also think some of the effect just might be down to my imagination. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I dont think Rosin can improve your playing but I do think certain rosins can give you a nicer/warmer/brighter sound (depending on what you are after)....

Saying that, if a certain rosin gives you a fantastic sound (placebo or not) then that in itself can make you more confident and in turn a better player... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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