Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Forums Rules

A shortened version of the Forums Rules is given below. The full version can be found here.

By maintaining a user account and by posting to these forums, you hereby agree to abide by these rules.

FORUMS RULES - A SNAPSHOT
- Stay safe - protect your privacy and respect the privacy of others
- No abusive, offensive or aggressive postings
- No insults or personal attacks
- No foul language
- No trolling
- No inappropriate or illegal material
- No advertising (including "For Sale" or "Wanted" adverts)
- No crossposting
- No forum spamming
- No defamatory comments
- Avoid using jargon, abbreviations or "text talk"

 
 Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Thum-line Music Notation, Anyone come across this?
janexxx
post Sep 14 2010, 02:08 PM
Post #1


Virtuoso
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5049
Joined: 22-January 05
From: Sunny Derbyshire UK
Member No.: 3016
ThumLine notation system

Just came across this as I was surfing today (I was actually looking for kitchen knives...don't know how this one popped up!).

Can't see it catching on, but an interesting read nevertherless
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Ribble
post Sep 14 2010, 02:25 PM
Post #2


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 53
Joined: 30-August 10
From: Nottingham
Member No.: 125535
Scary. Half agree with it but it's presuming (quite wrongly for percussion instruments and pianos) that the notes are the same physical distance apart. The good thing about Western Notation is that the physical distance between C-D is the same as E-F and they both move up by one step.

One a guitar, sax or something similar, I could semi-understand it but having looked at all sorts of medieval notation at uni, I'd have to say that there's a reason that we've come to what we've got today and why it has not changed in any fundamental way for the past 400 years. IMHO!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
sbhoa
post Sep 14 2010, 02:38 PM
Post #3


Maestro
******

Group: Members
Posts: 18927
Joined: 31-October 03
From: Tameside
Member No.: 24
QUOTE
To transpose a piece written in on a chromatic staff up a minor third (three semi-tones), the whole pattern of notes is simply shifted up by three vertical locations. The pattern's shape stays the same, no matter how many semi-tones it may be shifted under transposition.

Which is exactly the same in standard notation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Banjogirl
post Sep 14 2010, 06:06 PM
Post #4


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 930
Joined: 12-September 08
Member No.: 39509
Six lines is too many to take in automatically.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
bobifier
post Sep 15 2010, 01:24 AM
Post #5


Virtuoso
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 4468
Joined: 28-October 05
Member No.: 5119
What's wrong with the current system?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
tetrachord
post Sep 15 2010, 09:33 AM
Post #6


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 320
Joined: 3-April 09
From: Central Scotland
Member No.: 61050
I just got more and more baffled as I moved down the page.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Solari
post Sep 15 2010, 09:39 AM
Post #7


Unregistered
QUOTE(tetrachord @ Sep 15 2010, 10:33 AM) *

I just got more and more baffled as I moved down the page.


Same here, I think quantum physics is much simpler. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Arundodonuts
post Sep 15 2010, 09:40 AM
Post #8


Virtuoso
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 4931
Joined: 14-May 08
From: Stockport
Member No.: 30881
QUOTE(tetrachord @ Sep 15 2010, 10:33 AM) *

I just got more and more baffled as I moved down the page.

I gave up just after the bit sbhoa mentioned.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
kenm
post Sep 15 2010, 01:22 PM
Post #9


Virtuoso
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 2785
Joined: 9-September 04
Member No.: 2075
This notation is too restrictive. I wouldn't mind if it contradicted all the malign influences of the piano, but it doesn't go far enough. Of course the distance between C and D is different from that between E and F in the ears and physically on many instruments, but what this notation does not represent is the possibility of making F# differ from Gb etc., which is present on nearly all orchestral instruments (also on clavichord). IMO, the flexibility of present day staff notation, with its 35 pitch classes, is a good compromise between the huge flexibility of the acoustic spectrum and the practical limits imposed by the human brain.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
« Next Oldest · General Music Forum · Next Newest »
 

Reply to this topicStart new topic

 

Display Mode: Standard · Switch to: Linear+ · Switch to: Outline

Track this topic · Email this topic · Print this topic · Subscribe to this forum

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 23rd May 2013 - 08:09 PM