tartini tones...any thoughts? Options

[Viledin4u]

I have been reading up on these and it all sounds very interesting.. How can I produce a third tone on my violin by double stopping, or at least try to. I have a free day tomorrow so would like to give it a try. Which double stopped notes would I have to play. This is assuming that anyone knows what I am talking about in the first place!

[viola-mad]

I have been reading up on these and it all sounds very interesting.. How can I produce a third tone on my violin by double stopping, or at least try to. I have a free day tomorrow so would like to give it a try. Which double stopped notes would I have to play. This is assuming that anyone knows what I am talking about in the first place!

Must admit I had never heard of them! I just made the mistake of googling it, and then retreated very quickly when I saw all the scary formulae (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Slightly less scary, and also informative is the thread on this very forum posted years ago: http://www.abrsm.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t5392.html

[Viledin4u]

I have been reading up on these and it all sounds very interesting.. How can I produce a third tone on my violin by double stopping, or at least try to. I have a free day tomorrow so would like to give it a try. Which double stopped notes would I have to play. This is assuming that anyone knows what I am talking about in the first place!

Must admit I had never heard of them! I just made the mistake of googling it, and then retreated very quickly when I saw all the scary formulae (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Slightly less scary, and also informative is the thread on this very forum posted years ago: http://www.abrsm.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t5392.html

I did read that post and it made me more curious. The formulae do look complicated ...I was looking for something like ..if you double stop x on the A string and y on the E string and you are in tune and the violin and bow are willing you could potentially produce a third mystery tone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'm all for an easy life!

[Arundodonuts]

I have been reading up on these and it all sounds very interesting.. How can I produce a third tone on my violin by double stopping, or at least try to. I have a free day tomorrow so would like to give it a try. Which double stopped notes would I have to play. This is assuming that anyone knows what I am talking about in the first place!

They are sum and difference tones and are strongest when there is an simple harmonic relationaship between the two notes being played. For example, if you play an A at 440Hz and and E a 5th higher (which would be 660Hz) there will be a difference tone created of 660-440=220Hz which is an A one octave below the A you actually played.

If you play A=440 and C#=550, you should get a difference tone of 110Hz - that's an A 2 octaves below the one you played.

So, try 5ths and 3rds for a start.

[Viledin4u]

I have been reading up on these and it all sounds very interesting.. How can I produce a third tone on my violin by double stopping, or at least try to. I have a free day tomorrow so would like to give it a try. Which double stopped notes would I have to play. This is assuming that anyone knows what I am talking about in the first place!

They are sum and difference tones and are strongest when there is an simple harmonic relationaship between the two notes being played. For example, if you play an A at 440Hz and and E a 5th higher (which would be 660Hz) there will be a difference tone created of 660-440=220Hz which is an A one octave below the A you actually played.

If you play A=440 and C#=550, you should get a difference tone of 110Hz - that's an A 2 octaves below the one you played.

So, try 5ths and 3rds for a start.

Still too complicated for me : ) Is it possible to really simplify and give me two easily played notes on two adjacent strings to double stop, otherwise I will get brain ache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Arundodonuts]

I have been reading up on these and it all sounds very interesting.. How can I produce a third tone on my violin by double stopping, or at least try to. I have a free day tomorrow so would like to give it a try. Which double stopped notes would I have to play. This is assuming that anyone knows what I am talking about in the first place!

They are sum and difference tones and are strongest when there is an simple harmonic relationaship between the two notes being played. For example, if you play an A at 440Hz and and E a 5th higher (which would be 660Hz) there will be a difference tone created of 660-440=220Hz which is an A one octave below the A you actually played.

If you play A=440 and C#=550, you should get a difference tone of 110Hz - that's an A 2 octaves below the one you played.

So, try 5ths and 3rds for a start.

Still too complicated for me : ) Is it possible to really simplify and give me two easily played notes on two adjacent strings to double stop, otherwise I will get brain ache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Simplified:
So, try 5ths and 3rds for a start. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[BadStrad]

Still too complicated for me : ) Is it possible to really simplify and give me two easily played notes on two adjacent strings to double stop, otherwise I will get brain ache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Fifths apart - A (on G string) with E (on D string) Or that E with a B.

Thirds apart open A string and F (on D string) or G (on D string) and B (on A string).

[Viledin4u]

Still too complicated for me : ) Is it possible to really simplify and give me two easily played notes on two adjacent strings to double stop, otherwise I will get brain ache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Fifths apart - A (on G string) with E (on D string) Or that E with a B.

Thirds apart open A string and F (on D string) or G (on D string) and B (on A string).

Thank you ...off to try it now ...wonder what will happen!

[Blackbird77]

My teacher demonstrated this for me once and had told me what it was called but I'd forgotten so thank you for the reminder. Never done it myself because as my teacher would describe me, I have a habit of "attacking" the violin when it comes to double stopping.

Do let us know how you get on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Viledin4u]

Definitely worked with A and F!! Splendid stuff ...I love playing around with violin sounds! Anyone got anytrhing else i can try (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)