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The Old Lady
post Sep 19 2007, 06:52 PM
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Just a quick question on swinging (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
If the first of a pair of swung quavers is a rest........do you play the quaver note as a normal quaver? Or do you "swing" the rest in your mind and shorten the quaver note? Does that make sense?? It's in Stokes Jazz music for flute, Grade 6.
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post Sep 19 2007, 06:56 PM
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I'd swing the rest, else it'd sound funny. But I suspect it will turn out as a matter of opinion...
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post Sep 19 2007, 06:57 PM
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Yes, you swing the rest. I have a feeling this is specifically addressed in the notes for one of the pieces in one of the new exam books - it might even be that one.
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The Old Lady
post Sep 19 2007, 06:58 PM
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Thanks folks.
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post Sep 19 2007, 06:59 PM
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Basically swing the lot. For the first bar, for example, imagine the rest in your head shorten the D and make the F# long (if that makes sense!). So all the way through think of each pair of quavers as the first one long and the second one short. Hope that makes sense.

Great piece by the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 19 2007, 07:08 PM
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Great piece!

And yeah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) swing everything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 19 2007, 07:45 PM
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Incidentally, having spent four years explaining to students that the triplets are not slurred, except the one in bar 25 (just look at the difference in the engraving) I notice that the ABRSM have printed them all as slurred in the new Grade 6 book. This puts me in a slight quandary, as I'm playing this as my List C piece for the Teaching Dip. To slur, or not to slur, that is the question? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 19 2007, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Sep 19 2007, 08:45 PM) *

Incidentally, having spent four years explaining to students that the triplets are not slurred, except the one in bar 25 (just look at the difference in the engraving) I notice that the ABRSM have printed them all as slurred in the new Grade 6 book. This puts me in a slight quandary, as I'm playing this as my List C piece for the Teaching Dip. To slur, or not to slur, that is the question? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


So long as you can justify it I'd go ahead and go by the edition you are more familiar with.
Might be the start of a discussion about the difference. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 19 2007, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Sep 19 2007, 08:45 PM) *

Incidentally, having spent four years explaining to students that the triplets are not slurred, except the one in bar 25 (just look at the difference in the engraving) I notice that the ABRSM have printed them all as slurred in the new Grade 6 book. This puts me in a slight quandary, as I'm playing this as my List C piece for the Teaching Dip. To slur, or not to slur, that is the question? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'd ask Clara Taylor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 19 2007, 09:08 PM
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You can't swing if you ain't got that thing.

Just ask carol*piano. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 19 2007, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Sep 19 2007, 08:45 PM) *

Incidentally, having spent four years explaining to students that the triplets are not slurred, except the one in bar 25 (just look at the difference in the engraving) I notice that the ABRSM have printed them all as slurred in the new Grade 6 book. This puts me in a slight quandary, as I'm playing this as my List C piece for the Teaching Dip. To slur, or not to slur, that is the question? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I prefer them slurred because I feel it makes it sound more jazzy (sorry that's not a brilliant explanation of why I do it that way!). If it helps, I've had pupils play it like that in exams and the examiner has never commented on it.
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The Old Lady
post Sep 19 2007, 09:58 PM
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Went out for a run with a pianist friend from up the road. She asked what I'd been doing this evening. I said I've been swinging in the kitchen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) She understood..........a musician of course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 20 2007, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Sep 19 2007, 08:45 PM) *

Incidentally, having spent four years explaining to students that the triplets are not slurred, except the one in bar 25 (just look at the difference in the engraving) I notice that the ABRSM have printed them all as slurred in the new Grade 6 book. This puts me in a slight quandary, as I'm playing this as my List C piece for the Teaching Dip. To slur, or not to slur, that is the question? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) oh how helpful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(The Old Lady @ Sep 19 2007, 10:58 PM) *

Went out for a run with a pianist friend from up the road. She asked what I'd been doing this evening. I said I've been swinging in the kitchen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) She understood..........a musician of course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 20 2007, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Sep 19 2007, 10:08 PM) *

You can't swing if you ain't got that thing.

Just ask carol*piano. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I must admit I did read the title of this thread and think - Ah, a new dimension to the forums?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 20 2007, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(carol*piano @ Sep 20 2007, 03:42 PM) *

QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Sep 19 2007, 10:08 PM) *

You can't swing if you ain't got that thing.

Just ask carol*piano. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I must admit I did read the title of this thread and think - Ah, a new dimension to the forums?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



Yeah that was my first reaction too ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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