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katyjay	Jun 7 2011, 01:00 PM Post #736
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 15882 Joined: 13-December 03 From: North Surrey Member No.: 275	QUOTE(Benjy @ Jun 7 2011, 01:47 PM) QUOTE(corenfa @ Jun 6 2011, 10:48 PM) Brahms horn trio, yay!! Noted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'll get to work on the horn part! Are the three of you planning to play this anywhere for other Forumites to enjoy?

corenfa	Jun 7 2011, 05:35 PM Post #737
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	QUOTE(katyjay @ Jun 7 2011, 02:00 PM) QUOTE(Benjy @ Jun 7 2011, 01:47 PM) QUOTE(corenfa @ Jun 6 2011, 10:48 PM) Brahms horn trio, yay!! Noted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'll get to work on the horn part! Are the three of you planning to play this anywhere for other Forumites to enjoy? I only counted two... don't know who the violinist is though I think Benjy mentioned he could call in a favour? I would be up for playing it but it is going to take a LONG TIME for me to get the piano part under my fingers at the current rate of progress. Looking forward to the process though! (I've actually performed it before but I was a horn player then, I do not think I will be learning to play the violin just so I can say I've performed it on all three instruments)

Benjy	Jun 7 2011, 07:14 PM Post #738
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 262 Joined: 5-January 10 From: UK Member No.: 86293	QUOTE(corenfa @ Jun 7 2011, 06:35 PM) QUOTE(katyjay @ Jun 7 2011, 02:00 PM) Are the three of you planning to play this anywhere for other Forumites to enjoy? I only counted two... don't know who the violinist is though I think Benjy mentioned he could call in a favour? I would be up for playing it but it is going to take a LONG TIME for me to get the piano part under my fingers at the current rate of progress. Looking forward to the process though! (I've actually performed it before but I was a horn player then, I do not think I will be learning to play the violin just so I can say I've performed it on all three instruments) Yes we do need a violinist, and if we do pluck up the courage to play it at a forum event some time in the future (2012?) it would be good to have a forum violinist to join us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Volunteers? I may gatecrash the Viva Strings forum to see if anyone is up for the challenge.

corenfa	Jun 7 2011, 07:19 PM Post #739
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	QUOTE(Benjy @ Jun 7 2011, 08:14 PM) ... and if we do pluck up the courage to play it at a forum event some time in the future (2012?) ... 2012 at the earliest!!!

Benjy	Jun 8 2011, 08:07 AM Post #740
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 262 Joined: 5-January 10 From: UK Member No.: 86293	QUOTE(corenfa @ Jun 7 2011, 08:19 PM) 2012 at the earliest!!! I've just looked through the piano part - it is rather a monster, so no hurry! You will probably need to maintain the "small hands" thread for continued support (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I might learn it concurrently to share the pain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The horn part seems more of a stamina test than anything technically too challenging. I am planning to have plenty of endurance-building practice time available later this year.

jod	Jun 8 2011, 01:30 PM Post #741
Maestro Group: Banned Posts: 9899 Joined: 14-January 05 From: Burwell, Cambridgeshire Member No.: 2939	Can now play my Bach/Beethoven and Debussy with much more reliabilty and the tempo for the Bach is getting towards exciting without fall-offs Much happier bunny now piano-wise will up time on Schubert Gb impromtu to keep G8 pieces fresh and keep plugging at the scales/arpeggios and supporting tests. Might start on Albeniz as I like that and start looking at some more Bach

corenfa	Jun 8 2011, 10:14 PM Post #742
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	QUOTE(Benjy @ Jun 8 2011, 09:07 AM) QUOTE(corenfa @ Jun 7 2011, 08:19 PM) 2012 at the earliest!!! I've just looked through the piano part - it is rather a monster, so no hurry! You will probably need to maintain the "small hands" thread for continued support (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I might learn it concurrently to share the pain (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... You only need one hand to play the horn, right? If we seat you in the right place you can use the other hand to help in the stretchy bits.

jod	Jun 9 2011, 11:24 AM Post #743
Maestro Group: Banned Posts: 9899 Joined: 14-January 05 From: Burwell, Cambridgeshire Member No.: 2939	As a fellow member of the small handed pianist fraternity why do we put ourselves through this and insist we play big stuff save that it is gorgeous and we have to do it!

lilly763	Jun 9 2011, 12:26 PM Post #744
Unregistered	Interesting how we learn things... when I started the Bach Capriccio it took me about 2 weeks to learn and memorize the second half. I then decided not to practice it for several weeks because I didn't feel like it, but guilt set in a couple of days ago and I learned the first half - now somehow it's memorized and I can get through it in one piece at moderate tempo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Have decided to give it a rest for a bit and moved on the the Sinfonia, which is MUCH easier and more fun than I thought it would be (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

corenfa	Jun 12 2011, 06:49 PM Post #745
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	Yet another unorthodox way of practicing but it seems to have worked.. I am still trying to learn the C# major fugue from WTC Book 1. Just reading the double sharps gave me a headache at first, and then getting the fingering right was another mental workout. Of course continuity has been a huge problem and there are certain break points at which it always collapses. I had tried the old trick of playing a few bars before and after, but when I tried to put it all together, no joy. So a few weeks ago I started breaking something that had been drummed into me for years - never break the rhythm, never stop, always keep tempo steady - I started playing it from the beginning and when I got to the point where I just could not continue any more, stop on whatever note it was and allow my mind to catch up. It's paid off. I can now play through quite a few of those break points at higher speed than I was able to do so before. Of course it sounds awful when I practice this way, but I'm trying to be more mindful of what I'm trying to achieve in a particular session instead of only going by "how it sounds".

jod	Jun 18 2011, 03:22 PM Post #746
Maestro Group: Banned Posts: 9899 Joined: 14-January 05 From: Burwell, Cambridgeshire Member No.: 2939	Now that I'm just applying polish to my G8 pieces and trying get some stamina practising done. I'm adding the g minor P+F from WTC book 1 (Bach) and Schubert's Impromtu no3 in Gb This is my first attempt at 4 part fugal playing and the Capriccio has done me some good as all that voice balancing is helping sort out the entries. The prelude is probably my favourite from the 48. Very understated with intricate underlay and requiring finesse. The fugue needs to bolder and, provided that the quavers remain reasonably slow builds to the most amazing climax. The Schubert demonstrates how stillness with middle part figuration a melody in the Bass can be used to full effect. I absolutely love it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) . What with the stuff I have learnt for my G8, I am becoming very content at the piano. I decided I needed to 'pull my socks up' after agreeing to support an education appeal on behalf of a rather talented pupil, and then reading what he'd written about me. It was rather touching, now I'm benefitting too.

blackheaddog	Jun 18 2011, 07:10 PM Post #747
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 14-June 11 From: cumbria Member No.: 271283	learning faure nocturne no6 its starting to come together need to sort out the finer points now the notes are in place. been on with this for 6 months! (I am very patient!) Revising Ravel sonatine and brahms intermezzo op118 no2. Got huge list of much music to learn and need to live until i'm at least 200 if not longer.

corenfa	Jul 11 2011, 10:56 PM Post #748
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4286 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861	Last year at this time I was a one-trick pony obsessed with one piece and spending hours on nothing else. This year I've gone the other way completely and am now working on seven things at once. I overdid it a bit today and it is getting a bit close to bad ache (as opposed to good ache which is just a tired feeling). The last time I overdid it I had to take two weeks off.

jod	Jul 12 2011, 05:19 PM Post #749
Maestro Group: Banned Posts: 9899 Joined: 14-January 05 From: Burwell, Cambridgeshire Member No.: 2939	QUOTE(jod @ Jun 18 2011, 04:22 PM) Now that I'm just applying polish to my G8 pieces and trying get some stamina practising done. I'm adding the g minor P+F from WTC book 1 (Bach) and Schubert's Impromtu no3 in Gb This is my first attempt at 4 part fugal playing and the Capriccio has done me some good as all that voice balancing is helping sort out the entries. The prelude is probably my favourite from the 48. Very understated with intricate underlay and requiring finesse. The fugue needs to bolder and, provided that the quavers remain reasonably slow builds to the most amazing climax. The Schubert demonstrates how stillness with middle part figuration a melody in the Bass can be used to full effect. I absolutely love it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) . What with the stuff I have learnt for my G8, I am becoming very content at the piano. I decided I needed to 'pull my socks up' after agreeing to support an education appeal on behalf of a rather talented pupil, and then reading what he'd written about me. It was rather touching, now I'm benefitting too. Well it looks like I'm going to be learning these things for a while longer especially the Grade 8 pieces. Actually if I keep all 5 going and the scales they'll all benefit from one another. I'll also add rest of Pathetique Sonata to keep interest level up and focussed. Need to to a huge Self-esteem boost at Piano now.

1993allende	Jul 12 2011, 08:59 PM Post #750
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 5-May 10 From: Aberdeenshire Member No.: 100929	Chopin op. 40 no.2 polonaise in c minor. Not gonna lie, it's going to take a portion... No all of my cunning to bring out all the colour, cantabile voices etc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Rethinking my approach to Beethoven op.90 after youtubing some Barenboim masterclasses. He is an extraordinarily intellegent musician.

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