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Solari
post Mar 1 2011, 06:22 PM
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Ah, but it's a very organised discordant noise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I have to say that it looks somewhat alarming on the page!


I think I have no chance of playing Schoenberg right now, seeing as I wouldn't be able to hear if I was playing the right notes or not! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 1 2011, 09:32 PM
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Has anyone played Schoenberg's 6 little pieces? It's probably going to be my next project.

Jon


Just smash the keys and make a discordant noise? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) That's the impression I got last time I heard Schoenberg! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'm sure he's written some nice stuff, I just haven't bothered to seek it out yet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Ah, but it's a very organised discordant noise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I have to say that it looks somewhat alarming on the page!


you are a better man than I (err, in a lot of respects (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ). I cannot get my head around the Second Viennese School
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post Mar 1 2011, 10:01 PM
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you are a better man than I (err, in a lot of respects (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ).
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I also struggle. After seeing a performance of Wozzeck a couple of years ago, and also being present at last year's Berlin Phil prom where they played Schoenberg, Berg and Webern, I started to feel a sense of what they were trying to do. However, it will never be music that makes me smile.
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I also struggle. After seeing a performance of Wozzeck a couple of years ago, and also being present at last year's Berlin Phil prom where they played Schoenberg, Berg and Webern, I started to feel a sense of what they were trying to do. However, it will never be music that makes me smile.
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wow - more kudos to you then. I just can't imagine even trying to play something that doesn't in some way make me smile. All the best...
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I just can't imagine even trying to play something that doesn't in some way make me smile. All the best...


Thanks! I guess that I feel the need for my music to move me emotionally in some respect, but not necessarily always in a positive or happy way. Tortured personality? Who knows. Joking aside, I do generally play for enjoyment. And I don't rule out the possibility that the Schoenberg might turn out to be fun to play (if not to listen to) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 1 2011, 11:10 PM
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I just can't imagine even trying to play something that doesn't in some way make me smile. All the best...


Thanks! I guess that I feel the need for my music to move me emotionally in some respect, but not necessarily always in a positive or happy way. Tortured personality? Who knows. Joking aside, I do generally play for enjoyment. And I don't rule out the possibility that the Schoenberg might turn out to be fun to play (if not to listen to) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I am so easily capable of getting wound up by nonmusical things that if i looked for musical things to wind me up as well I'd be a total basket case (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 1 2011, 11:31 PM
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On the sly, I'm learning Schubert's D946 No.2 - it's wonderful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm terrified of the latter sections but several skim overs trying to sight read assures me that it's difficult, but not impossible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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On the sly, I'm learning Schubert's D946 No.2 - it's wonderful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm terrified of the latter sections but several skim overs trying to sight read assures me that it's difficult, but not impossible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Splendid! We look forward to hearing it later this month. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 1 2011, 11:40 PM
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On the sly, I'm learning Schubert's D946 No.2 - it's wonderful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm terrified of the latter sections but several skim overs trying to sight read assures me that it's difficult, but not impossible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Splendid! We look forward to hearing it later this month. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Haha! You might get the first page! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Has anyone played Schoenberg's 6 little pieces? It's probably going to be my next project.

Jon

Is that Op.19? I was forced to play acquainted with two or three of them when I was young... Put me off Shoenberg for years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ill.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I still prefer pieces with proper melodies these days but then I heard his Op.11 played in a recital recently and liked it, went off to buy the sheet music and am now waiting for it to get to the top of my to-do list.

I'm playing Ginastera's Danza Argentinas #2. Also just started learning Respighi's Notturno. Both very pretty pieces (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 2 2011, 08:05 PM
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I am learning the Khorovod from the Firebird - which may get heard on the 26th, I haven't decided.

Also the Chopin Op. 53 Polonaise in A-flat, and Rachmaninoff Op. 23 No 5, which will not get heard on the 26th (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

and actually I am slacking off, need a break...
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you are a better man than I (err, in a lot of respects (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ). I cannot get my head around the Second Viennese School


I had a whole lecture on the School the other week. I understand the thinking yet can't really appreciate the music and don't think I ever will.

It is music that is composed with the brain, by which I mean there is absolute minimal room for actual emotion. My lecturer said that if there was a composition module based on the principles, then it would be the only composition module in existance that it would be possible to gain 100% in because it is very much this is right and this is wrong.

Personally I can't deal with such music; there isn't enough personal space within it. Interpreting music is like translating a poem; when going from one language to the other you have to avoid literal translation and seek words that carry the same nuances as originally intended by the poet. Music like this, however, is like being given a poem in your own language to read; people may give different readings but all of them are very much bound by what is on the page if that makes any sense to anyone.

Anyway I am working on my final recital:

Beethoven- Sonata op. 26 (3rd and 4th mvts)
Chopin- Berceuse op. 57
Debussy- Jardins sous la pluie
Crumb- selections from Makrokosmos volume 1

On the side I am learning a transcription of Debussy's Prelude a l'apres-midi d'un faune that I made myself. Hopefully it will be in some kind of state that I can perform it at the gathering, though I'm still spending more time picking at it than actually learning to play it...
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QUOTE(Benjy @ Mar 1 2011, 05:19 PM) *

Has anyone played Schoenberg's 6 little pieces? It's probably going to be my next project.

Jon


Just smash the keys and make a discordant noise? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) That's the impression I got last time I heard Schoenberg! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'm sure he's written some nice stuff, I just haven't bothered to seek it out yet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Try any Schoenberg from before the mid 1900s : it's often quite diatonic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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I'm learning Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu, which I will be playing at a concert in may, along with Novelette in fourths by Gershwin.
Chopin's Ballade in G minor.
Bach's prelude and fugue in Bb major (should have it finished soon, the fugue is rather tricky).
And I'm making a start on Schumann's piano concerto in the next week... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Today I "got" the consecutive octave E major scale passage in the left hand of Chopin Op. 53 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It sounds horrible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but I can physically play it, which I couldn't last week, and that means if I practice enough it will eventually sound not-horrible
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