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> Need to come up with a stress free schedule, sorry to bore!
MusicalNitWit
post May 2 2011, 09:38 AM
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So definite practice days when we can do everything are:

Saturday and Sunday

Defintite no practice days:

Monday and Tuesday

All other days ranging from 20-40mins but lets assume 20 mins so what should I focus on in the three 20 min slots.

All two octaves

13 scales - 80% there from memory and speed
2 chromatics
3 dominants
2 diminshed
arepeggios
sight-reading
aural - is once a week enough, so at the weekend?

3 pieces of which one is purfect, two just has one problem area and three - eek!

So I need the most efficient practice and one that will help him to remember his scales, especially the chroms, dims, arps etc.
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post May 2 2011, 10:46 AM
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Have you seen the scales under construction series? Daughter used this on one of her instruments but I'm not sure if it's available for others. It's actually a very good idea in that there are lots of scale exercises and they can be practised with a CD.

There's also Paul Harris Improve Your Scales. These might help him work on scales and speed them up as they are less obvious than playing scales, though he would have to do both.

Not sure what to suggest on schedule in a very similar position where there just aren't enough hours in the day. Emsoboe is long past learning to play the notes she's on the more difficult slope of getting technique right at higher levels. I do know how scary it is and with three instruments it won't get any easier.
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post May 2 2011, 11:25 AM
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Sorry, I 'm not up to date with recent discussions or even which instrument your son is taking grade 5 in so
apologies if this reply is inappropriate! I haven't got time to trawl through old threads.

If it's grade 5 piano you are working towards, I just wanted to check you know that the scales are three octaves not two?
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post May 2 2011, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(MusicalNitWit @ May 2 2011, 10:38 AM) *

So definite practice days when we can do everything are:

Saturday and Sunday

Defintite no practice days:

Monday and Tuesday

All other days ranging from 20-40mins but lets assume 20 mins so what should I focus on in the three 20 min slots.

All two octaves

13 scales - 80% there from memory and speed
2 chromatics
3 dominants
2 diminshed
arepeggios
sight-reading
aural - is once a week enough, so at the weekend?

3 pieces of which one is purfect, two just has one problem area and three - eek!

So I need the most efficient practice and one that will help him to remember his scales, especially the chroms, dims, arps etc.


Argh I have accidentally closed this window TWICE now!
I used to take 3 starting notes and play every possible scale, arp etc I could be asked on each of those notes, each morning between breakfast and school, when working for G8. About 10 mins a day. Given that DS has fewer to cover, I would suggest dividing them into 3 groups to be done on weekdays, and note the tricky ones for more work at the w/e (when I suggest that you pick a few at random for him as well). Again, for weekday practice, I would look at the dodgy bits in the imperfect pieces and get him to do 5 mins on each one. Then put in 5 mins sight reading. His aural should be pretty good given his choristering, but do check!!!

I'd do arpeggios and scales in the same keys consecutively - they're kind of reinforcing. so when I just give a key, that's scale AND arpeggio, and tongued AND slurred if time, otherwise alternate each one.

These scales seem harder than when I did my G5, by the way! How about this for groupings?

G maj, E maj, B min, chromatics, D dom
F, Bb, Bb dom, Eb, Ab, Fmin, C dom
A, A min, C# min, F#min, Bb min, diminished 7th

Which pieces is he doing, did you say?

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post May 2 2011, 12:52 PM
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Suggestion - CD in the car for aural work?
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post May 2 2011, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(SueHM @ May 2 2011, 01:52 PM) *

Suggestion - CD in the car for aural work?

Genius. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Paul Harris - Improve your Aural is currently attempting to improve daughter. Not sure how well that would work in a car though.
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post May 2 2011, 05:10 PM
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Paul Harris - Improve your Aural is currently attempting to improve daughter.
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TOO MANY JOKES (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) that made my day!
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post May 2 2011, 08:11 PM
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Currently in London burying my head in the sand (gin) so will respond when I get back. Great ideas so far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post May 3 2011, 08:14 AM
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At the moment he is doing:

A Sinfonia - nearly there
B Shepherds Hey - just started
C Scena - this is practically perfect

So do I do these pieces at every practice or can Scena be maintained by Sat/Sun practice only? I'm wondering if there is a B piece that would suit him better but I do not have any B piece music apart from Montagues, which we have ruled out.
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post May 3 2011, 08:33 AM
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Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than the teddy bears? I think daughter 1 did it for a clarinet exam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 3 2011, 08:44 AM
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Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than the teddy bears? I think daughter 1 did it for a clarinet exam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Yes but given the earliest exam date could be the 6th June (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ill.gif) I may not have to suffer it for too long! On an up note it is ridiculously fast so Ds is not being asked to slow down, for once! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 3 2011, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(andante @ May 3 2011, 09:33 AM) *

Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than the teddy bears? I think daughter 1 did it for a clarinet exam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Steady on. That's a FINE morris tune. Rubbish on bassoon I would have thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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1) School commute?

2) Age?

3) Other after-school commitments?

4) Other musical activities?

Back-tracking from exam date with a calendar and child following the dates with you helps to really get them to understand that an exam is actually GOING to happen.

Scales - typing up all the names of scales, arpeggios etc on slips of paper and choosing a set number to do each day at random is a forum favorite and a very good method!

Asking teachers of other instruments to help with the required scales/keys in the run-up to an exam is a great help for kids who have a variety of musical commitments.

If the school commute is long, a copy of the music that can be sounded out in the mind while reading (and visualizing any tricky fingering etc) is a time-saver, helps improve accuracy quickly, and I hope sows the seeds of sight-reading skills!

If the school doesn't forbid them, a cheapo mp3 player with the exam pieces on them also speeds things up!

And yes, it's hard on a kid to have a busy schedule, but there are times when it's unavoidable.
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post May 3 2011, 04:07 PM
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Just had a thought!

If the pieces are in a certain key/s is it unlikely that the scale or it's relative be asked for?
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post May 3 2011, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(pushpull @ May 3 2011, 09:48 AM) *

QUOTE(andante @ May 3 2011, 09:33 AM) *

Shepherds' Hey ? Surely that is worse than the teddy bears? I think daughter 1 did it for a clarinet exam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Steady on. That's a FINE morris tune. Rubbish on bassoon I would have thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


NOTHING is rubbish on a bassoon.

Interesting perhaps, but not rubbish!
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