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micky-d
post Jun 25 2008, 09:07 PM
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okay....
i have a piece in Ab major and I am trying to identify the chords

i have a chord that reads from bottom up:

Cb - Fb - Ab - Cb - Fb

I know that this is Emajor in third inversion, but.... how would it be written in Roman notation

would it be:

bVIc


Thanks for your help
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post Jun 25 2008, 09:10 PM
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How do you get E major?
You can't change the note names to their enharmonic equivalents to suit yourself.
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post Jun 25 2008, 09:17 PM
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yes I know this.

My question is how do you write it in roman notation, I know that it is actually Fb Major.

but do you write that as

bVIc (with the b at the start a flat sign not a B indicating inversion)

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post Jun 25 2008, 10:01 PM
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isn't it in second inversion ?
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QUOTE(fatar760 @ Jun 26 2008, 09:25 AM) *

isn't it in second inversion ?



yes it is Im sorry but last night I posted this question very late. sorry
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post Jun 27 2008, 02:41 PM
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Hi micky-d

These chords can be frustrating from a theoretical viewpoint, and I'm sure I will be corected pretty swiftly if I am wrong, but yes I too make it

bVIc

or, the flattened submediant chord in second inversion in Ab major. If you were to rewrite it using enharmonic quivalents, it would look like the tonic chord of E major.

Good luck with the theory studies (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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corected = corrected (!!!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 27 2008, 02:50 PM
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no it is not, it is a first inversion chord, and as the Cb is also alien to Ab, the Roman Notation should be written
bVIb(b5)

a second inversion would have the Fb at the bottom.

Please do not complicate things using enharmonics. The spelling of Chords is vital. Equal tempered keyboard players may not see it, but the rest of do, especially any early music buffs, singers or string players.
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QUOTE(jod @ Jun 27 2008, 03:50 PM) *

no it is not, it is a first inversion chord, and as the Cb is also alien to Ab, the Roman Notation should be written
bVIb(b5)

a second inversion would have the Fb at the bottom.

Please do not complicate things using enharmonics. The spelling of Chords is vital. Equal tempered keyboard players may not see it, but the rest of do, especially any early music buffs, singers or string players.


it is an Fb major chord, the Cb is in the bass so it is second inversion, first inversion would have an Ab in the bass
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