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| IrisH - LoonY |
Nov 21 2005, 08:52 PM
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I've come to the conclusion about the Etudes Op.10 and Op.25
Easiest Etude - Op.25 No.2 in F minor Hardest Etude - Close call between Op.10 No.3 in E, Op.25 No.6 in G# minor and No.10 in B minor. That's just MY personal opinion mind you, I could be wrong. What do you think?? IrisH - LoonY P.S. I'm not going anywhere near these ghastly pieces....yet :P ! |
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| sl123451 |
Nov 22 2005, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(sl123451 @ Nov 21 2005, 11:26 PM) QUOTE(Trebor @ Nov 21 2005, 10:23 PM) The difficulty of a piece is not just defined by the notes you have to play (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) exactly... you need to know the notes and have a considerable musical understanding of the piece. It probably helps if you have let the piece go and refreshed it a few times and performed it as well. You cannever tell the difficulty of a piece until you have performed it..deffo not Well obviously you have to get the technique "perfected" before even CONSIDERING bringing out the emotional side of things... ...What I'm getting at as being "easiet" and "difficult" is by its technicality. E.g. 6 pages of minor 3rds chromatically up and down the piano at a fast speed in G# minor is no easy task! IrisH - LoonY well maybe someone else finds that easier |
| SteveHopwood |
Nov 23 2005, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(sl123451 @ Nov 21 2005, 11:26 PM) QUOTE(Trebor @ Nov 21 2005, 10:23 PM) The difficulty of a piece is not just defined by the notes you have to play (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) exactly... you need to know the notes and have a considerable musical understanding of the piece. It probably helps if you have let the piece go and refreshed it a few times and performed it as well. You cannever tell the difficulty of a piece until you have performed it..deffo not Well obviously you have to get the technique "perfected" before even CONSIDERING bringing out the emotional side of things... ...What I'm getting at as being "easiet" and "difficult" is by its technicality. E.g. 6 pages of minor 3rds chromatically up and down the piano at a fast speed in G# minor is no easy task! IrisH - LoonY well maybe someone else finds that easier How about me, cos I have actually performed this piece, along with the rest of op 25 and quite a lot of op 10. Only someone ignorant of the subtleties of the technical difficulties (ie someone who has never actually played them) of all these pieces would talk in terms of 'easier' and 'harder'. Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
IrisH - LoonY Chopin Conclusion Nov 21 2005, 08:52 PM
noodle
So how can you tell whether they are easy or ha... Nov 21 2005, 09:47 PM
IrisH - LoonY
So how can you tell whether they are easy or ha... Nov 21 2005, 10:00 PM
sl123451
So how can you tell whether they are easy or ha... Nov 21 2005, 10:18 PM
Trebor The difficulty of a piece is not just defined by t... Nov 21 2005, 10:23 PM
Semele Hey Loony
Have you pondered on playing Liszt... Nov 21 2005, 10:26 PM
sl123451
exactly... you need to know the notes and have a... Nov 21 2005, 10:26 PM
IrisH - LoonY
exactly... you need to know the notes and have a... Nov 21 2005, 10:45 PM
Dangermouse
...What I'm getting at as being "easiet... Nov 21 2005, 10:49 PM
YetAnotherPianist
Only someone ignorant of the subtleties of the te... Nov 23 2005, 02:46 PM
SteveHopwood
Of course, you're forgetting that people have... Nov 23 2005, 02:49 PM
chocolatedog
Only someone ignorant of the subtleties of the t... Nov 23 2005, 03:09 PM
IrisH - LoonY I've clearly given off the wrong idea.
I... Nov 23 2005, 05:33 PM
YetAnotherPianist
Now theoretically, these are ETUDES (studies) we... Nov 23 2005, 06:16 PM
IrisH - LoonY Hey,YetAnotherPianist, recieved your email, my ema... Nov 23 2005, 09:29 PM
SteveHopwood
And, of course, if one doesn't have to mask p... Nov 23 2005, 10:12 PM
Oddball All I can say is:
:blink: Nov 23 2005, 09:33 PM
Trebor All I can say is bull...*cough* Nov 23 2005, 09:34 PM
YetAnotherPianist Wow, have you got a mic? It'd be great to hav... Nov 23 2005, 09:42 PM
IrisH - LoonY Haha, not one that can extend 2 floors down to the... Nov 23 2005, 09:52 PM
Trebor
Haha, not one that can extend 2 floors down to th... Nov 23 2005, 09:56 PM
IrisH - LoonY
Haha, not one that can extend 2 floors down to t... Nov 23 2005, 09:58 PM
Storini Just compare them with the Pollini versions before... Nov 23 2005, 09:44 PM
YetAnotherPianist :D
Once bitten.... ;). Nov 23 2005, 09:47 PM
saxlover Twice shyyyyyy, i kept the distance but you still ... Nov 23 2005, 09:51 PM
sl123451
I've clearly given off the wrong idea.
I... Nov 23 2005, 10:08 PM
sl123451
And, of course, if one doesn't have to mask ... Nov 23 2005, 10:14 PM
IrisH - LoonY As I've said, I'm not attempting the Etude... Nov 23 2005, 10:17 PM
SteveHopwood
im sure he'll continue along his merry way.
... Nov 23 2005, 10:23 PM
IrisH - LoonY
im sure he'll continue along his merry way. ... Nov 23 2005, 10:25 PM
sl123451
As I've said, I'm not attempting the Etud... Nov 23 2005, 10:20 PM
IrisH - LoonY
As I've said, I'm not attempting the Etu... Nov 23 2005, 10:21 PM
sl123451 yeah in liverpool....some have multiple identities... Nov 23 2005, 10:30 PM
IrisH - LoonY
yeah in liverpool....some have multiple identitie... Nov 23 2005, 10:34 PM
SteveHopwood
yeah in liverpool....some have multiple identitie... Nov 23 2005, 10:43 PM
sl123451
yeah in liverpool....some have multiple identiti... Nov 23 2005, 10:37 PM
IrisH - LoonY
[quote name='IrisH - LoonY' post='195607' da... Nov 23 2005, 10:40 PM
SteveHopwood
Chopin's was the Neapolitan 6th, anyone else ... Nov 23 2005, 11:15 PM
YetAnotherPianist
Do you know what a Neapolitan 6th is?
Steve :D
... Nov 23 2005, 11:17 PM
SteveHopwood
Do you know what a Neapolitan 6th is?
Steve :D... Nov 23 2005, 11:21 PM
sl123451
[quote name='IrisH - LoonY' post='195607' d... Nov 23 2005, 10:43 PM
IrisH - LoonY
[quote name='IrisH - LoonY' post='195616' da... Nov 23 2005, 10:47 PM
saxlover Beg pardon? Nov 23 2005, 10:43 PM
SteveHopwood
Beg pardon?
Not you, Nat. You are not an albatro... Nov 23 2005, 10:46 PM
sl123451 we are talking about chopin-obsessed drivel-laden ... Nov 23 2005, 10:47 PM
sl123451
Finally, something you agree with :P
Is the Nea... Nov 23 2005, 10:48 PM
IrisH - LoonY
Finally, something you agree with :P
Is the Ne... Nov 23 2005, 10:50 PM
saxlover Do you like Impromptu No/5 IL? :lol: Nov 23 2005, 11:23 PM
SteveHopwood
Do you like Impromptu No/5 IL? :lol:
Or his defi... Nov 23 2005, 11:28 PM
sl123451 i think tomorrow IL will come in boasting he has ... Nov 23 2005, 11:28 PM
SteveHopwood
i think tomorrow IL will come in boasting he has ... Nov 23 2005, 11:34 PM
pianostar Oh my gosh! Finallly!
*ahem* Sorry, I... Nov 24 2005, 04:37 PM
IrisH - LoonY
Oh my gosh! Finallly!
*ahem* Sorry, I... Nov 24 2005, 05:02 PM

pianostar I think this is the Neapolitan 6th:
The augmented... Nov 24 2005, 05:24 PM
chocolatedog
Oh my gosh! Finallly!
*ahem* Sorry, I... Nov 24 2005, 05:32 PM
IrisH - LoonY Take C major as root position you get C and A
Sup... Nov 24 2005, 06:15 PM
pianostar
Take C major as root position you get C and A
Su... Nov 24 2005, 07:52 PM
sl123451 i must say though. He has kept his temper well thi... Nov 23 2005, 11:30 PM
SteveHopwood A Neapolitan 6th is the easiest of the lot to gras... Nov 24 2005, 11:00 PM
chocolatedog Now I'm confused! So which chord was I ta... Nov 24 2005, 11:46 PM
SteveHopwood
Now I'm confused! So which chord was I t... Nov 25 2005, 12:08 AM
chocolatedog It reminds me of the legend that Mozart's mum ... Nov 25 2005, 09:16 AM
IrisH - LoonY
It reminds me of the legend that Mozart's mum... Nov 25 2005, 10:46 PM
pianoplayer Chopin's music is distinct because he uses the... Nov 25 2005, 04:09 PM
SteveHopwood
Chopin's music is distinct because he uses th... Nov 25 2005, 10:03 PM
pianoplayer
Chopin's music is distinct because he uses t... Nov 26 2005, 04:11 AM
pianostar Pianoplayer, do you think you or anyone who knows... Nov 26 2005, 12:23 PM
chocolatedog Oh hi Steve - good evening! How are you today? Nov 25 2005, 10:05 PM
SteveHopwood
Oh hi Steve - good evening! How are you today... Nov 25 2005, 10:19 PM
sl123451
Oh hi Steve - good evening! How are you toda... Nov 25 2005, 10:21 PM
SteveHopwood
[quote name='SteveHopwood' post='197428' date='No... Nov 25 2005, 10:30 PM
sl123451
[quote name='SteveHopwood' post='197428' date='N... Nov 25 2005, 10:31 PM
SteveHopwood
LOL!!!
Sorry steve, but dogs rule ov... Nov 25 2005, 10:41 PM
sl123451
It reminds me of the legend that Mozart's mu... Nov 25 2005, 10:59 PM
IrisH - LoonY
[quote name='IrisH - LoonY' post='197486' da... Nov 27 2005, 02:22 PM
Oddball
First degree - Ionian - The major scale
Second d... Nov 27 2005, 02:30 PM
IrisH - LoonY
First degree - Ionian - The major scale
Second ... Nov 27 2005, 02:35 PM
Cyrilla It's a raised 4th in a major scale - eg C D E... Nov 26 2005, 02:08 PM
chocolatedog Same as an augmented 4th maybe? Only guessing.
Oh... Nov 26 2005, 02:09 PM
SteveHopwood
Same as an augmented 4th maybe? Only guessing.
... Nov 26 2005, 06:19 PM
pianostar Thank you very much to everyone who explained thin... Nov 26 2005, 06:52 PM
SteveHopwood
Thank you very much to everyone who explained thi... Nov 26 2005, 06:59 PM
pianostar Oh, my gosh!!! Really?? I had absolute... Nov 26 2005, 07:15 PM
SteveHopwood
So, on that basis, why isn't a second called ... Nov 26 2005, 07:22 PM
pianostar Oh, no! You don't know? I thought you woul... Nov 26 2005, 07:52 PM
Cyrilla Ah - yes, silly me, should have just said that, I ... Nov 26 2005, 02:14 PM
YetAnotherPianist I found an answer to this posted by AP:
Nov 26 2005, 07:49 PM
noodle
I found an answer to this posted by AP:
Thank... Nov 26 2005, 11:44 PM
Cyrilla It really depends where the interval occurs in the... Nov 26 2005, 11:23 PM
Cyrilla In Kodaly training we do a lot on inversions of in... Nov 27 2005, 01:19 PM
maggiemay
In Kodaly training we do a lot on inversions of i... Nov 27 2005, 01:55 PM
Cyrilla Hear, hear!
It does seem to be a feature of K... Nov 27 2005, 02:09 PM
Oddball Probably made it up... ;) Nov 27 2005, 02:53 PM
IrisH - LoonY
Probably made it up... ;)
Just what I'm thi... Nov 27 2005, 03:06 PM
chocolatedog Nope I'm fairly sure it's not made up - I... Nov 27 2005, 05:01 PM
Oddball If found it too!!
http://tonalsoft.com/en... Nov 27 2005, 05:16 PM
chocolatedog
If found it too!!
http://tonalsoft.com/e... Nov 27 2005, 05:30 PM
noodle
Just noticed your cow is now called Moosorgsky ... Nov 27 2005, 06:12 PM![]() ![]() |
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