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> Viola G4..., ...part of my "get used to exams again" plan...& a rando
janexxx
post Jun 23 2006, 05:30 PM
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"Oh and a random Schumann question, if anyone has the Loy Viola Music For Beginners book - in the Schuman, 2nd line, last bar, there appears to be a grace note C to a C... Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?? I'm confusled... do you just stop the bow for a moment or what? Really weird. Never come across that before.
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It sounds odd. Could it be a misprint? (When you play the guitar a lot you get used to misprints, and end up assuming that anything you don't understand must be a misprint. Or at least I do).

Yup could be an editor's typo. See if you can check another edition at the library or somewhere. Does it sound like it should be a D to a C when you play it? And do you have a version you can listen to?
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dacapo
post Jun 23 2006, 08:52 PM
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Hey folks. I'm thinking of going for G4 viola at Christmas:
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Tempted by Chanson de Matin but don't think I can justify shelling out for another £9's worth of book at the moment...

Why spend money on exam fees when you could spend it on more lovely music to play? Actually £9 sounds rather expensive. Do you get several pieces for that? Did Elgar make an arrangement for viola? I always think of it and Chanson de Nuit as violin pieces, but I know he did produce different versions of quite a lot of his small pieces.
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sarah-flute
post Jun 24 2006, 05:53 PM
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Hey folks. I'm thinking of going for G4 viola at Christmas:
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Tempted by Chanson de Matin but don't think I can justify shelling out for another £9's worth of book at the moment...

Why spend money on exam fees when you could spend it on more lovely music to play? Actually £9 sounds rather expensive. Do you get several pieces for that? Did Elgar make an arrangement for viola? I always think of it and Chanson de Nuit as violin pieces, but I know he did produce different versions of quite a lot of his small pieces.

I need to get used to exams - I'd like to do grade 8 and maybe Dip on flute eventually, and at the moment exams just do me in - hence getting exam practice where possible! Plus, esp on viola and recorder which I don't have a group to play in regularly, it gives me something to aim for. (and hopefully an encouraging result....!)

I don't know who the arrangement of Chanson de Matin is by... *goes to look* it's in a book all arranged by someone so I guess it's not an Elgar arrangement. At the lower grades most of the viola music is arrangements... some of them are lovely though!

I got the Shosti today - just going to have a go!

One thing that often annoys me though - it seems a shame that some arrangements for viola half forget there's this beautiful C string just dying to be used to make that wonderful cello-esque sound. One of these days I'm going to sit down and do my own arrangements of some pieces that use the C string more!

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It sounds odd. Could it be a misprint? (When you play the guitar a lot you get used to misprints, and end up assuming that anything you don't understand must be a misprint. Or at least I do).
Yup could be an editor's typo. See if you can check another edition at the library or somewhere. Does it sound like it should be a D to a C when you play it? And do you have a version you can listen to?

Hmmm, it may well be. I suspect this is "the" viola arrangement. I don't know what it was written for - anyone? Traumerei/Dreams Op 15 no. 7?

Maybe I'll do a post on GMF.
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Rainbow
post Jun 24 2006, 06:10 PM
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One thing that often annoys me though - it seems a shame that some arrangements for viola half forget there's this beautiful C string just dying to be used to make that wonderful cello-esque sound. One of these days I'm going to sit down and do my own arrangements of some pieces that use the C string more!


Yes, I know what you mean - some of my grade 5 pieces were a bit like that. If you do do some arrangements, could you send me them please, I'd love something nice to play. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 24 2006, 06:15 PM
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Annoying isn't it?

Will send you some - it will be a kick up my behind to DO some arrangements if I have someone I have promised them to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This arrangement of the Shosti is a case in point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) - it's nice, and I will enjoy playing it, but I would like it even more if it was a direct transcription (minus double stopping...!!) of the violin melody line, then it would have quite a lot of stuff on the C string. As it is, it goes low once, I think - I mean, what a waste!! If it was to keep it in the same key then that'd be one thing, but it's not. Silly, silly, silly.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Rainbow
post Jun 24 2006, 06:18 PM
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Thanks! Don't make them TOO difficult though - all my music at the moment is too hard but I won't be getting lessons til September so it's rather frustrating.
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purple viola
post Jun 24 2006, 07:28 PM
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It sounds odd. Could it be a misprint? (When you play the guitar a lot you get used to misprints, and end up assuming that anything you don't understand must be a misprint. Or at least I do).
Yup could be an editor's typo. See if you can check another edition at the library or somewhere. Does it sound like it should be a D to a C when you play it? And do you have a version you can listen to?

Hmmm, it may well be. I suspect this is "the" viola arrangement. I don't know what it was written for - anyone? Traumerei/Dreams Op 15 no. 7?

Maybe I'll do a post on GMF.



I think the Traumerei were originally written for piano (but not 100% sure of this). I have looked at a copy of it I have for piano. The piano part has the same acciaccatura going from C to C, it is not a misprint. If you check out how to play an acciaccatura in a grade 5 theory book it should help you to understand how to play it. This kind of acciaccatura with the grace note and main note at the same pitch is not a particularly unusual thing to find in music. I have seen it several times.
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violin-ann
post Jun 28 2006, 04:06 PM
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Hehehe.. yes, you are right, the Traumerei was written for piano, and it's very chordal. I wonder how the viola version sounds like!

Same for the Album Leaf. I never liked the piano version... but once I played the violin version with the pianist, I was hooked! It's so different..
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post Jul 1 2006, 03:54 PM
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I didn't do any of them!

Except maybe Traumerei, the name rings a bell...
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