Abrsm Results Are Predictable

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Abrsm Results Are Predictable, Do youknowyour students?

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aluisa	Dec 18 2006, 07:46 PM Post #1
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 9-January 06 Member No.: 5783	I hope I know my students and every exam period I make a forcast on what students will get ( without telling them!); always they are,on average, a couple of marks out from the actual result, which I consider very precise abd very fair. Well done ABRSM, you are SO CONSISTANT, which is what students need. Aluisa.

sonataform	Dec 19 2006, 02:27 AM Post #2
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 1-November 06 From: Argyll, Scotland Member No.: 8133	A year ago everyone I had doing an exam was about 5 marks below what I'd expected. The common factor was that nobody liked the piano, which they all said had no dynamic range whatever (most of them had negative comments about, surprise, dynamic range). A couple of weeks ago everyone was about 15 marks below what I'd expected. The examiner - who I was told was a very nice man - turned out to be the most savage marker I've ever heard of.

SuzyMac	Dec 19 2006, 07:19 AM Post #3
Prodigy Group: Members Posts: 1156 Joined: 13-June 04 From: UK - Rural Notts & Lincoln. Member No.: 1502	If they all played as they can play, and do play in lessons, I'd be within a couple of marks each time too. Unfortunately, other factors almost always come into the equation! Be it a shoddy piano, nervous student, cold hands, mental blocks....the list goes on...

monkey laydee	Dec 19 2006, 07:35 PM Post #4
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 18-December 06 From: S.Wales Member No.: 8713	QUOTE(sonataform @ Dec 19 2006, 02:27 AM) A year ago everyone I had doing an exam was about 5 marks below what I'd expected. The common factor was that nobody liked the piano, which they all said had no dynamic range whatever (most of them had negative comments about, surprise, dynamic range). A couple of weeks ago everyone was about 15 marks below what I'd expected. The examiner - who I was told was a very nice man - turned out to be the most savage marker I've ever heard of. I had an examiner like that a few years ago. He was one of the nicest blokes you could meet... then I got my result! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Still passed though, so it was alright.

miss_tickle_thea	Dec 19 2006, 07:53 PM Post #5
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3314 Joined: 17-October 06 Member No.: 7993	My mum thought a pupil would just scrape organ grade 8- then he got 126!

ben_walker446	Dec 19 2006, 07:56 PM Post #6
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4860 Joined: 10-December 05 From: Stoke-on-trent Member No.: 5524	My piano teacher a day before my grade 2 said that I would fail....I ended up with a distinction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

lizbun	Dec 19 2006, 08:32 PM Post #7
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4772 Joined: 11-July 06 From: somewhere Member No.: 7250	QUOTE(ben_walker446 @ Dec 19 2006, 07:56 PM) My piano teacher a day before my grade 2 said that I would fail....I ended up with a distinction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) For my g5 piano, my teacher thought I would pass; I got a distinction

guilmant	Dec 19 2006, 11:12 PM Post #8
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 862 Joined: 8-November 06 From: South West Member No.: 8200	QUOTE(aluisa @ Dec 18 2006, 07:46 PM) I hope I know my students and every exam period I make a forcast on what students will get ( without telling them!); always they are,on average, a couple of marks out from the actual result, which I consider very precise abd very fair. Well done ABRSM, you are SO CONSISTANT, which is what students need. Aluisa. Have you read the thread on Teachers about unfair exam results and how inconsistent people think examiners are? You'll have a right laugh... Nice to see someone talking sense!

Glass Mountain	Dec 20 2006, 12:55 AM Post #9
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 234 Joined: 16-August 06 Member No.: 7409	QUOTE(sonataform @ Dec 19 2006, 02:27 AM) A year ago everyone I had doing an exam was about 5 marks below what I'd expected. The common factor was that nobody liked the piano, which they all said had no dynamic range whatever (most of them had negative comments about, surprise, dynamic range). A couple of weeks ago everyone was about 15 marks below what I'd expected. The examiner - who I was told was a very nice man - turned out to be the most savage marker I've ever heard of. On the whole I agree with the first posting as most of the time I can predict within a few marks what the pupils will get. However, I've also had the experience with a 'nice' examiner who downmarked my pupils by about 10 marks, so we still get surprises! Sometimes this can do us good though however unfair it may seem, as it would be easy to become too complacent. Probably best to work people with a view to having these 'nice but savage' examiners, although they few and far between thank goodness!

La_Chopiniste_	Dec 20 2006, 07:14 AM Post #10
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 2142 Joined: 13-November 05 From: Cairo, Egypt Member No.: 5249	From another aspect, there was this tiny, young grade 5 piano kid who was always very bad in lessons. He was unbelievable during his exam and got a distinction. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Dulciana	Dec 20 2006, 09:39 AM Post #11
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5718 Joined: 11-January 06 Member No.: 5811	I usually get it about right, whatever the board; however, I'm much more likely to underestimate a mark slightly rather than the other way round.

clari kath	Dec 23 2006, 01:47 PM Post #12
Member Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 19-August 05 From: Southport Member No.: 4499	wouldn't say i can prdict a mark but can always tell if i have passed or failed and if it is a good pass or just cscraped a pass. have never been wrong yet even when i failed grade 6 everyone said i was being pesimistic until the results came through and i had actually failed.

DrumKat	Dec 23 2006, 03:02 PM Post #13
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 8743	I find that often it's the examiners who seem really nice who mark really harshly, and the one's who seem unfriendly who mark generously! This doesn't always work, though. Due to this, I never have a clue how I've done until I get my mark!

idiotmatthew	Dec 23 2006, 03:14 PM Post #14
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 218 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4267	QUOTE(DrumKat @ Dec 23 2006, 11:02 PM) I find that often it's the examiners who seem really nice who mark really harshly, and the one's who seem unfriendly who mark generously! This doesn't always work, though. Due to this, I never have a clue how I've done until I get my mark! Same as what I thought.

organist_katy	Dec 23 2006, 06:29 PM Post #15
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 961 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Near Newcastle Member No.: 6527	I have to say, looking back on what I wrote on the VO board after my exam and comparing it to my marks breakdown, it's about right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) and also the examiner was lovely, really tried to put me at ease and apparently said 'Good playing' to my organ teacher after I'd left (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) so I don't think you can say that all nice examiners mark harshly. But there does seem to be a bit of a trend.

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