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> New Player, New Violin?, starting violin
lottie
post Jan 23 2007, 03:25 PM
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Hello!!!! At last! It's taken me weeks of problems but I am finally able to post on ABRSM and join in the forums!!!

I just started playing 6months ago and LOVE the violin. I was a clarinet teacher years ago but have taken up the violin as a new challenge. I play with a Scottish fiddle orchestra and am just starting to learn double stopping and position changes but I haven't started vibrato yet.

I'm playing a 'Zeller' but I'm finding problems using my fourth finger partly because the violin has such a thick neck and partly because my hands are quite small.

I'd like to know if anyone has any experience playing a 7/8 size violin and if they think the smaller size affects the tone? I think I'm outgrowing the Zeller already and am thinking of moving to a Gliga Gama.

Any thoughts/opinions would be of interest.

Oh and Hi again - I've been able to read the forums for ages without being able to join in and it sounds like such a friendly knowlegable place!
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post Jan 28 2007, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(lottie @ Jan 28 2007, 10:24 AM) *
It looks as though I'll go for a 7/8th and I keep hearing fabulous things about Gliga violins. I've got three violins sitting in the house just now and although I don't like its sound, it's the 7/8th I keep taking out to play because it is so comfortable in my hands.

When I played the piano many moons ago I was told I had great hands for Bach and Mozart but not for Liszt or Brahms; I can stretch an octave but my fingers must really be quite short.
Gliga really are as good as people say. I've got a Gliga Gama viola with only a 15 inch back, but it has a terrific sound. I only really use it for teaching and if I was going to play viola professionally, I know I would need something with an even bigger sound, but Gliga can hold their own very well in good amateur orchestras.

My hands are probably about the same size as yours. I can stretch an octave on the piano, but, only with my thumb and little finger just hanging on the ends of the keys. Fitting any extra notes in in between, with the other three fingers, would be impossible.

If a 7/8th violin is what feels comfortable for you, then go with it. It's very easy to be swayed by people saying, "oh nobody else would ever buy it because it's too small". There are enough small handed players out there who benefit from the comfort this size of violin offers - otherwise 7/8th violins (and cellos!!) wouldn't have been made. Through bitter experience I know there are things I can manage on a 7/8th violin that I struggle with on a larger instrument. Being able to play at speed and move around the fingerboard swiftly is extremely important. If the instrument is too big to enable the freedom of the hand, then it will stilt your progress and general ability to play certain types of music.

I wish you all the best in your violin playing!
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lottie   New Player, New Violin?   Jan 23 2007, 03:25 PM
elidatrading   The 7/8 is actually quite a common size in older v...   Jan 23 2007, 04:33 PM
lottie   I've had a 7/8 on loan for a few days now and ...   Jan 25 2007, 05:30 PM
Tess   I've had a 7/8 on loan for a few days now and...   Jan 28 2007, 01:13 PM
elidatrading   There are many factors that affect the sound of th...   Jan 26 2007, 12:36 AM
lottie   Thanks for your replies Liz. :D I'm going to...   Jan 26 2007, 11:27 AM
elidatrading   Thanks for your replies Liz. :D I'm going t...   Jan 26 2007, 02:38 PM
AmandaL   It is possible to find old 7/8th violins. Bohemian...   Jan 27 2007, 05:06 PM
lottie   I've been looking around (on the internet beca...   Jan 28 2007, 10:24 AM
AmandaL   It looks as though I'll go for a 7/8th and I k...   Jan 28 2007, 11:33 AM
elisabeth_rb   I've got a Gliga Gama viola with only a 15 in...   Feb 1 2007, 12:04 AM
lottie   :D :D :D I've ordered my Gliga 7/8 violin...   Jan 30 2007, 10:02 AM
Malone   I used to play a 7/8 and it was really old. It has...   Jan 30 2007, 11:19 AM
all ears   Elisabeth, lots of Japanese women play 7/8 instrum...   Feb 1 2007, 02:03 AM
lottie   Elisabeth, lots of Japanese women play 7/8 instru...   Feb 1 2007, 06:26 AM
nigel   How much does it cost, on average, to have a luthi...   Feb 12 2007, 12:13 AM
lottie   How much does it cost, on average, to have a luth...   Feb 12 2007, 07:03 AM
elidatrading   Loreato violins from Soundpost for instance are ...   Feb 12 2007, 08:32 AM
nigel   You can't have done, Nigel, they've only b...   Feb 13 2007, 12:05 AM
elidatrading   I did not mean I played on a soundpost product, o...   Feb 13 2007, 08:38 AM
elisabeth_rb   Elisabeth, lots of Japanese women play 7/8 instru...   Feb 1 2007, 09:32 AM
all ears   Liz from Elidatrading or one of the strings teache...   Feb 1 2007, 06:56 AM
lottie   So what are the best type of strings that people u...   Feb 1 2007, 02:11 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   Most beginners start with Dominants though their E...   Feb 1 2007, 05:50 PM
jordancollege   Most beginners start with Dominants though their ...   Feb 7 2007, 11:55 AM
AmandaL   Most beginners start with Dominants though their E...   Feb 7 2007, 01:14 PM
jordancollege   Are you really sure they are Dominant strings?? Th...   Feb 7 2007, 02:49 PM
lottie   I've heard Pirastro strings are meant to be go...   Feb 7 2007, 03:50 PM
earplugs   I've heard Pirastro strings are meant to be g...   Feb 7 2007, 06:42 PM
lottie   Hi, thanks for your reply earplugs :) I'm th...   Feb 7 2007, 09:39 PM
AmandaL   I've heard Pirastro strings are meant to be go...   Feb 8 2007, 10:37 AM
lottie   :( Sorry you're cross AmandaL The problem is...   Feb 8 2007, 01:44 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   Yea, they should set up a string trying in violin ...   Feb 8 2007, 02:49 PM
earplugs   Lottie I would just go for a set of dominants fro...   Feb 8 2007, 03:40 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   I live in Singapore lol. You probably live in the ...   Feb 8 2007, 03:45 PM
earplugs   Yes UK. You could probably buy all the violin str...   Feb 8 2007, 03:56 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   Lol...I don't think it's as big as the UK....   Feb 8 2007, 06:24 PM
AmandaL   God...Amanda, what type of violins suit Pirazzis?G...   Feb 10 2007, 07:58 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   *grin* Thanks Amanda! I'll stick to my Vis...   Feb 11 2007, 12:13 PM
lottie   Well now I have two new violins to try; a full siz...   Feb 15 2007, 07:57 AM
elidatrading   Do be careful, I did myself a long term injury by...   Feb 16 2007, 12:17 AM

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