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> New Player, New Violin?, starting violin
lottie
post Jan 23 2007, 03:25 PM
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Hello!!!! At last! It's taken me weeks of problems but I am finally able to post on ABRSM and join in the forums!!!

I just started playing 6months ago and LOVE the violin. I was a clarinet teacher years ago but have taken up the violin as a new challenge. I play with a Scottish fiddle orchestra and am just starting to learn double stopping and position changes but I haven't started vibrato yet.

I'm playing a 'Zeller' but I'm finding problems using my fourth finger partly because the violin has such a thick neck and partly because my hands are quite small.

I'd like to know if anyone has any experience playing a 7/8 size violin and if they think the smaller size affects the tone? I think I'm outgrowing the Zeller already and am thinking of moving to a Gliga Gama.

Any thoughts/opinions would be of interest.

Oh and Hi again - I've been able to read the forums for ages without being able to join in and it sounds like such a friendly knowlegable place!
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post Jan 25 2007, 05:30 PM
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I've had a 7/8 on loan for a few days now and the first thing I noticed was how much easier it was for me to play in tune... but it sounded like a 'kiddie's violin'!!!!! .. all thin and reedy.

My Dad has loaned me his full-size saying it has a more refined neck than the Zeller and I should find it sitting easier in my small hand and that's true - it's a bit more of a stretch than the 7/8 but my fourth finger is nearly bang on tune with it.

So I'm hoping the Gama has a more refined neck than my chunky Zeller!

But what to chose; a 7/8 which might have a 'smaller' sound which I don't want, or a full size that I will eventually learn to pitch properly as my hand learns to stretch???? Anybody have any thoughts???


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post Jan 28 2007, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(lottie @ Jan 25 2007, 05:30 PM) *

I've had a 7/8 on loan for a few days now and the first thing I noticed was how much easier it was for me to play in tune... but it sounded like a 'kiddie's violin'!!!!! .. all thin and reedy.

My Dad has loaned me his full-size saying it has a more refined neck than the Zeller and I should find it sitting easier in my small hand and that's true - it's a bit more of a stretch than the 7/8 but my fourth finger is nearly bang on tune with it.

So I'm hoping the Gama has a more refined neck than my chunky Zeller!

But what to chose; a 7/8 which might have a 'smaller' sound which I don't want, or a full size that I will eventually learn to pitch properly as my hand learns to stretch???? Anybody have any thoughts???


This violin business is really complicated!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Hi Lottie,

I am not a violinist, I must confess. Well, like Bo and AmandaL, my girl is also using a 7/8 violin. Maybe she has big hands for her age. It is an old French one and no, it does not sound kiddish/bright at all. It has a lovely tone! If your 7/8 feels comfortable, then by all means as AmandaL advised, go with it. If it sounds horrid to you, try changing strings, might work??? If it doesn't - I'm just throwing out ideas here - get another 7/8. No point changing to a full size if the 7/8 itself feels comfy.

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lottie   New Player, New Violin?   Jan 23 2007, 03:25 PM
elidatrading   The 7/8 is actually quite a common size in older v...   Jan 23 2007, 04:33 PM
lottie   I've had a 7/8 on loan for a few days now and ...   Jan 25 2007, 05:30 PM
Tess   I've had a 7/8 on loan for a few days now and...   Jan 28 2007, 01:13 PM
elidatrading   There are many factors that affect the sound of th...   Jan 26 2007, 12:36 AM
lottie   Thanks for your replies Liz. :D I'm going to...   Jan 26 2007, 11:27 AM
elidatrading   Thanks for your replies Liz. :D I'm going t...   Jan 26 2007, 02:38 PM
AmandaL   It is possible to find old 7/8th violins. Bohemian...   Jan 27 2007, 05:06 PM
lottie   I've been looking around (on the internet beca...   Jan 28 2007, 10:24 AM
AmandaL   It looks as though I'll go for a 7/8th and I k...   Jan 28 2007, 11:33 AM
elisabeth_rb   I've got a Gliga Gama viola with only a 15 in...   Feb 1 2007, 12:04 AM
lottie   :D :D :D I've ordered my Gliga 7/8 violin...   Jan 30 2007, 10:02 AM
Malone   I used to play a 7/8 and it was really old. It has...   Jan 30 2007, 11:19 AM
all ears   Elisabeth, lots of Japanese women play 7/8 instrum...   Feb 1 2007, 02:03 AM
lottie   Elisabeth, lots of Japanese women play 7/8 instru...   Feb 1 2007, 06:26 AM
nigel   How much does it cost, on average, to have a luthi...   Feb 12 2007, 12:13 AM
lottie   How much does it cost, on average, to have a luth...   Feb 12 2007, 07:03 AM
elidatrading   Loreato violins from Soundpost for instance are ...   Feb 12 2007, 08:32 AM
nigel   You can't have done, Nigel, they've only b...   Feb 13 2007, 12:05 AM
elidatrading   I did not mean I played on a soundpost product, o...   Feb 13 2007, 08:38 AM
elisabeth_rb   Elisabeth, lots of Japanese women play 7/8 instru...   Feb 1 2007, 09:32 AM
all ears   Liz from Elidatrading or one of the strings teache...   Feb 1 2007, 06:56 AM
lottie   So what are the best type of strings that people u...   Feb 1 2007, 02:11 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   Most beginners start with Dominants though their E...   Feb 1 2007, 05:50 PM
jordancollege   Most beginners start with Dominants though their ...   Feb 7 2007, 11:55 AM
AmandaL   Most beginners start with Dominants though their E...   Feb 7 2007, 01:14 PM
jordancollege   Are you really sure they are Dominant strings?? Th...   Feb 7 2007, 02:49 PM
lottie   I've heard Pirastro strings are meant to be go...   Feb 7 2007, 03:50 PM
earplugs   I've heard Pirastro strings are meant to be g...   Feb 7 2007, 06:42 PM
lottie   Hi, thanks for your reply earplugs :) I'm th...   Feb 7 2007, 09:39 PM
AmandaL   I've heard Pirastro strings are meant to be go...   Feb 8 2007, 10:37 AM
lottie   :( Sorry you're cross AmandaL The problem is...   Feb 8 2007, 01:44 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   Yea, they should set up a string trying in violin ...   Feb 8 2007, 02:49 PM
earplugs   Lottie I would just go for a set of dominants fro...   Feb 8 2007, 03:40 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   I live in Singapore lol. You probably live in the ...   Feb 8 2007, 03:45 PM
earplugs   Yes UK. You could probably buy all the violin str...   Feb 8 2007, 03:56 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   Lol...I don't think it's as big as the UK....   Feb 8 2007, 06:24 PM
AmandaL   God...Amanda, what type of violins suit Pirazzis?G...   Feb 10 2007, 07:58 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   *grin* Thanks Amanda! I'll stick to my Vis...   Feb 11 2007, 12:13 PM
lottie   Well now I have two new violins to try; a full siz...   Feb 15 2007, 07:57 AM
elidatrading   Do be careful, I did myself a long term injury by...   Feb 16 2007, 12:17 AM

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