Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Forums Rules

A shortened version of the Forums Rules is given below. The full version can be found here.

By maintaining a user account and by posting to these forums, you hereby agree to abide by these rules.

FORUMS RULES - A SNAPSHOT
- Stay safe - protect your privacy and respect the privacy of others
- No abusive, offensive or aggressive postings
- No insults or personal attacks
- No foul language
- No trolling
- No inappropriate or illegal material
- No advertising (including "For Sale" or "Wanted" adverts)
- No crossposting
- No forum spamming
- No defamatory comments
- Avoid using jargon, abbreviations or "text talk"

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Accompaniments For Singing Exams
JulieCSM
post Feb 17 2007, 10:19 PM
Post #1


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 376
Joined: 31-October 03
Member No.: 22



Do they allow recorded accompaniments in singing exams or does it have to be a live accompanist (as opposed to a dead one - lol!)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
sbhoa
post Feb 17 2007, 10:34 PM
Post #2


Maestro
******

Group: Members
Posts: 18997
Joined: 31-October 03
From: Tameside
Member No.: 24



You have to have a real live pianist.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
possom
post Feb 18 2007, 12:15 PM
Post #3


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 762
Joined: 29-June 04
From: Suffolk
Member No.: 1603



I think the only board that allow recorded accompaniments are LCM, they do for music theatre and pop (would have to check for classical singing). If you're stuck for an accompanist have a look on here:-

http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-accompanists/index.php
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jojo
post Feb 19 2007, 07:55 AM
Post #4


Virtuoso
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5211
Joined: 18-December 06
From:
Member No.: 8716



QUOTE(possom @ Feb 18 2007, 12:15 PM) *

I think the only board that allow recorded accompaniments are LCM, they do for music theatre and pop (would have to check for classical singing). If you're stuck for an accompanist have a look on here:-

http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-accompanists/index.php


How much do accompanists charge?
I think it is really unfair that ABRSM compels you to have a live accompaniment and that you also have to pay for it! After you pay for the exam entry you find yourself having to pay for this as well! It should be our choice if we have recorded or 'live' as some of us don't have that much money to splash about...and what is the real 'rationale' to having a live one?
sorry about the moan but had to get it off my chest (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Margaretc
post Feb 19 2007, 08:54 AM
Post #5


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 14
Joined: 7-November 06
Member No.: 8192



QUOTE(possom @ Feb 18 2007, 12:15 PM) *

I think the only board that allow recorded accompaniments are LCM, they do for music theatre and pop (would have to check for classical singing). If you're stuck for an accompanist have a look on here:-

http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-accompanists/index.php


Thank you for the link however was really disappointed as West Yorkshire is not listed. I struggle constantly to find an accompanist for students and really feel a pre-recorded accompaniment (allow in no way ideal) would be a godsend - does anyone else have any additional information/ideas?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
possom
post Feb 19 2007, 09:02 AM
Post #6


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 762
Joined: 29-June 04
From: Suffolk
Member No.: 1603



QUOTE(Margaretc @ Feb 19 2007, 08:54 AM) *

QUOTE(possom @ Feb 18 2007, 12:15 PM) *

I think the only board that allow recorded accompaniments are LCM, they do for music theatre and pop (would have to check for classical singing). If you're stuck for an accompanist have a look on here:-

http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-accompanists/index.php


Thank you for the link however was really disappointed as West Yorkshire is not listed. I struggle constantly to find an accompanist for students and really feel a pre-recorded accompaniment (allow in no way ideal) would be a godsend - does anyone else have any additional information/ideas?


I think they have updated the site because when I checked I wasn't listed anymore and had to re-register. I had another search and found one for West Yorkshire although this is on a violin/viola site.

http://www.jimpix.co.uk/v/search/a2.asp?po...p;Submit=Submit
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
AnnC
post Feb 19 2007, 02:10 PM
Post #7


Virtuoso
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 2664
Joined: 8-February 06
Member No.: 6097



I use my own accompanist. He charges £25 per exam, to include a separate rehearsal on a different day, which we do in front of the other candidates, like a little concert.
The fee is the same for grade 1 as grade 8 - he still has a round trip of 50 miles for both days. We have tried others who are cheaper, but frankly they were not really good enough. Once I had to use a different good pianist, and she was £30! I'm afraid you get what you pay for.
Other than professionals, how about contacting schools - they might have an A level student pianist who would appreciate the experience. Or local piano teachers, who might have a student good enough.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
sonataform
post Feb 19 2007, 04:20 PM
Post #8


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 637
Joined: 1-November 06
From: Argyll, Scotland
Member No.: 8133



QUOTE(jojo @ Feb 19 2007, 07:55 AM) *

...and what is the real 'rationale' to having a live one?


The rationale is that singing to a CD is fundamentally different from singing with another musician. In the first case you're fitting your performance into something completely inflexible; in the second you are part of a two-person team in which each responds to the other, and either may lead the other during a particular part of the performance.

I sympathise with the point about the extra expense, though.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
petrat
post Feb 19 2007, 04:50 PM
Post #9


Unregistered









Most of the teachers of singing that I know are able to play for their own pupils, at least for geade exams if not diplomas. It is such an important skill for potential teachers to acquire. Good accompanists can be hard to find, and have to charge a fair fee for their time spent in learning new works, revising old ones and rehearsal time as well as for attending the exam on the day.
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
sarah-flute
post Feb 19 2007, 05:53 PM
Post #10


Maestro
******

Group: Members
Posts: 25735
Joined: 14-December 04
From: Insomniaville
Member No.: 2729



QUOTE(jojo @ Feb 19 2007, 07:55 AM) *
and what is the real 'rationale' to having a live one?

It tests your ability to play or sing in ensemble.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jojo
post Feb 19 2007, 06:37 PM
Post #11


Virtuoso
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5211
Joined: 18-December 06
From:
Member No.: 8716



QUOTE(sonataform @ Feb 19 2007, 04:20 PM) *



The rationale is that singing to a CD is fundamentally different from singing with another musician. In the first case you're fitting your performance into something completely inflexible; in the second you are part of a two-person team in which each responds to the other, and either may lead the other during a particular part of the performance.

I sympathise with the point about the extra expense, though.


That's 'fair' enough, I understand, just still upset that this is not provided by ABRSM instead of us having to pay extra (although the benefit of providing your own accompanist is that you can meet up with her/him before hand and rehearse I understand)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
petrat
post Feb 19 2007, 07:34 PM
Post #12


Unregistered









It is really essential to work with your accompanist before the exam. If an accompanist was provided on the day by the exam board there would be all kinds of problems with different editions, keys of songs, repeats or not, style, tempo, tempo changes, dynamics etc etc. There are so many different, but correct ways of performing pieces. In music theatre exams LCM allow the use of backing tracks but not in the classical singing exams. The singers seem to perform better if they have a live accompanist though. Things sometimes will go adrift and a reliable and competent accompanist would be able to follow and adapt. If a singer makes an error when using a pr- recorded accompaniment is far more apparent.
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
sneekymum
post Feb 19 2007, 07:39 PM
Post #13


Advanced Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 869
Joined: 18-May 06
Member No.: 6958



My singing teacher follows me rather then me her in her accompaniments. If I pause then so does she - I can't use her playing to carry me along. Also I set the pace and she follows. Once I sang so flatly she changed key. I think she'll be a rock in the exam though.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
petrat
post Feb 19 2007, 09:13 PM
Post #14


Unregistered









QUOTE(sneekymum @ Feb 19 2007, 07:39 PM) *

My singing teacher follows me rather then me her in her accompaniments. If I pause then so does she - I can't use her playing to carry me along. Also I set the pace and she follows. Once I sang so flatly she changed key. I think she'll be a rock in the exam though.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) She sounds great! You would not get a machine to do that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Good luck with your exam Sneeky.
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
« Next Oldest · Teachers · Next Newest »
 

Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th June 2013 - 10:42 AM