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> Climate Change?, Is it for real
onmageetar
post Mar 14 2007, 11:01 AM
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I notice people have touched on the subject already but do we all believe that the current mass hysteria is actually justified....?

We are all led to believe that the majority of world scientists support the fact that the current warming trend of the planet is caused by us.
We are told that the Earth is warming faster than ever before. But how do we define "ever before"? Some scientists say since records began, a mere 300 - 400 years. Some say in the last 5000 years. The earth is 4.5 billion years old! What is 300, 400, 5000 years compared to that?
Around the year 1200 northern Europe was a full 2°C warmer than it is now. What would we attribute that to? we certainly can't blame human emissions.

The Earth has been warming up and cooling down all on it's own since day 1. Certainly I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to live a little more planet friendly. But I think the Harbingers of doom are promoting paranoia.
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post Mar 18 2007, 09:00 PM
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to be honest I think we need to be more worried about emissions that contribute to acid rain than CO2 emissions,

the level of CO2 in the atmosphere increases world food production (plants take in more, so does plankton in the sea which fish then feed on, etc. etc.) water vapour is a more problematic greenhouse gas than CO2 (if they really do have an affect)

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the sun is getting hotter (it is at its hottest in 8,000 years)... contributes little towards global warming.


To say the heat of the sun doesn't affect the heat of this planet is complete anathema.
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onmageetar   Climate Change?   Mar 14 2007, 11:01 AM
Nicia-Clarinet-Flute   Whats happening to the planet it purely natural, w...   Mar 14 2007, 02:23 PM
petrat   You may well be right. I don't have enough kno...   Mar 14 2007, 02:31 PM
uberzoldat   The earth has always had changing climate. Take ic...   Mar 14 2007, 03:22 PM
bobifier   To be fair, CO2 has exactly the effect that your s...   Mar 14 2007, 03:31 PM
uberzoldat   I don't disagree that we are certainly contrib...   Mar 14 2007, 03:37 PM
superpyroman   surely, even if it is us, the theory of determinis...   Mar 14 2007, 03:43 PM
anacrusis   Whatever the proportion of the contributions from ...   Mar 14 2007, 05:25 PM
Noodelz   The fact that the Earth has been changing its temp...   Mar 14 2007, 06:27 PM
onmageetar   The fact that the Earth has been changing its tem...   Mar 14 2007, 11:56 PM
chocolatedog   There was a brilliant programme on channel 4 very ...   Mar 14 2007, 07:11 PM
Queen Jess   There was a brilliant programme on channel 4 very...   Mar 15 2007, 08:57 PM
bobifier   There was a brilliant programme on channel 4 ver...   Mar 16 2007, 04:51 PM
chocolatedog   [quote name='Queen Jess' post='479582' date='Mar ...   Mar 16 2007, 04:54 PM
bobifier   [quote name='Queen Jess' post='479582' date='Mar...   Mar 16 2007, 04:59 PM
onmageetar   To be fair, at the time, we didn't have the ...   Mar 18 2007, 09:09 AM
bobifier   To be fair, at the time, we didn't have the...   Mar 18 2007, 12:46 PM
onmageetar   It is both. CO2 is proven to have the warming ef...   Mar 18 2007, 04:48 PM
bobifier   It is both. CO2 is proven to have the warming e...   Mar 18 2007, 08:33 PM
onmageetar   Your Washington State thing is a statistic. I do...   Mar 19 2007, 12:36 AM
Rosemary7391   Even if we did stop emitting carbon dioxide today,...   Mar 15 2007, 08:28 PM
chocolatedog   http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites...ndle/...   Mar 15 2007, 10:47 PM
Rock Star Guy   I'm an environmentalist but I have to say, the...   Mar 18 2007, 08:37 PM
bobifier   I'm an environmentalist but I have to say, th...   Mar 18 2007, 08:41 PM
Rock Star Guy   [quote name='Rock Star Guy' post='481097' date='M...   Mar 18 2007, 08:44 PM
bobifier   [quote name='Rock Star Guy' post='481097' date='...   Mar 18 2007, 08:46 PM
chocolatedog   [quote name='Rock Star Guy' post='481102' date='M...   Mar 18 2007, 08:48 PM
bobifier   [quote name='Rock Star Guy' post='481102' date='...   Mar 18 2007, 08:51 PM
Rock Star Guy   to be honest I think we need to be more worried ab...   Mar 18 2007, 09:00 PM
bobifier   to be honest I think we need to be more worried a...   Mar 18 2007, 09:04 PM

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