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| sarah-flute |
Apr 18 2007, 11:10 AM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 25735 Joined: 14-December 04 From: Insomniaville Member No.: 2729 |
BUT that's not to say I don't sometimes FEEL like destroying my piano when the stupid thing refuses to play the right notes and sound that way I want (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piano.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
| Tortellini |
Apr 20 2007, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE Even worse is the article I once read about so many beautiful large concert grand pianos being bought by the ignorant 'nouveau riche' as pieces of expensive furniture, and never once being touched or played..... that makes me weep.........a piano deserves to be played........ I feel the way about expensive kitchens and state of the art cookers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Apr 20 2007, 06:59 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2438 Joined: 17-December 06 From: N.Ireland Member No.: 8699 |
- can we ever get away from the grandiose symbolism of the piano and see it as any other instrument ? why is it held in such stature ? Can't speak for others but I wouldn't be happy to see any instrument being destroyed for the sake of it. Even instruments that I don't especially care for. Just read this article http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.ns...ts%20in%20style ...my honest reaction is what a complete drama queen, and how stupid to wreck pianos in a fit of pique. He's forgetting that the 1% he so despises are probably the people who paid to hear him play - just so he could afford to wreck pianos... Now there's someone who neeps a slap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/glare.gif) |
| sarah-flute |
Apr 20 2007, 07:52 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 25735 Joined: 14-December 04 From: Insomniaville Member No.: 2729 |
Now there's someone who neeps a slap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/glare.gif) Yeah, pretty much what I was thinking..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
| Oddball |
Apr 21 2007, 11:33 AM
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I don't see what the hoo-hah is about smashing up pianos. Pianos are just boxes of wood, are they not? With strings. Sure, you can use them to channel your feelings and emotions to an audience, but the piano itself does not have any soul. It can't - how can it?
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| Wobby |
Apr 21 2007, 01:48 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4108 Joined: 16-January 05 From: Leicestershire, East Midlands Member No.: 2957 |
I don't think that the 'hoo-hah' is particularly solely based on the emotional attachment to the instrument... at least, in my opinion, the main reason the destruction of pianos should be frowned upon among with the destruction of any other instrument, is that it is a complete waste of money, effort and the resources put into making it, not to mention you have 'wasted the lives' of those poor trees cut down to make it in the first place.
I.e. that piano could have been played - value in terms of enjoyment; it could have brought in revenue - so there would be an economical value in keeping it; by destroying it, you have negated the money input into the manufacture of such a piano - not just the initial value of the goods itself, but the cost to pay the wages of those working on its manufacture as well; and finally, you have probably just wasted a good deal of wood and metal, which is unlikely to be redeemed from the wreckage: hardly an ideal pastime when we are trying to conserve our trees and recycle all that we can...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Oh yes, actually, another reason why we should be against it is that a nod in the destruction of pianos is a nod in the direction of modern art(!) And we wouldn't want that either...! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) In response to the initial post(s), I would not be prepared to destroy my own piano, I think it is unacceptable, it is regardless of who destroys it being the issue, it would be pretty much like buying a laptop or a house and completely trashing it - it is in a way no different from destroying any other valuable inanimate object, and it is probably not any more acceptable for its destruction to be done in the name of art or creativity, for the aforementioned reasons! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) ~Wobby~ |
| sarah-flute |
Apr 22 2007, 12:24 AM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 25735 Joined: 14-December 04 From: Insomniaville Member No.: 2729 |
I don't see what the hoo-hah is about smashing up pianos. Pianos are just boxes of wood, are they not? With strings. Sure, you can use them to channel your feelings and emotions to an audience, but the piano itself does not have any soul. It can't - how can it? So? I don't think a piano has a soul. But why should that make it OK to smash it up for no good reason? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Why wreck a perfectly good (in some cases a truly exceptional) instrument just for the heck of it? Wasteful and silly, surely! Just as it'd be silly and wasteful for me to smash a computer I had no more use for, a pair of glasses that no longer fit, or any number of other things that someone else could use (in both these two cases, I know of charitable organisations that pass on those items to those who could not otherwise afford them). QUOTE I don't think that the 'hoo-hah' is particularly solely based on the emotional attachment to the instrument... at least, in my opinion, the main reason the destruction of pianos should be frowned upon among with the destruction of any other instrument, is that it is a complete waste of money, effort and the resources put into making it, not to mention you have 'wasted the lives' of those poor trees cut down to make it in the first place. I.e. that piano could have been played - value in terms of enjoyment; it could have brought in revenue - so there would be an economical value in keeping it; by destroying it, you have negated the money input into the manufacture of such a piano - not just the initial value of the goods itself, but the cost to pay the wages of those working on its manufacture as well; and finally, you have probably just wasted a good deal of wood and metal, which is unlikely to be redeemed from the wreckage: hardly an ideal pastime when we are trying to conserve our trees and recycle all that we can... ^ yupyupyup If some rich pianist has enough money they can buy 3 pianos just for the sake of smashing them up to "prove a point", then they have enough money to do something useful like, say, sponsor a whole village full of kids, or hey, give those 3 pianos to music schools, colleges, or upcoming pianists who need them (or don't buy them and buy dozens of less expensive but still decent pianos for same). Smashing a piano on a whim because of a hissy fit about being unappreciated is the adult (and I use the word in its broadest sense) concert pianist version of throwing one's toys out of the pram; said pianist needs to grow up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
| petrat |
Apr 22 2007, 09:03 AM
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Would the pro-piano-smashers be any more upset if a Strad fiddle were to suffer the same fate?
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| wajid Yaseen |
May 8 2007, 06:04 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 16-April 07 Member No.: 10713 |
witnessed a piano being destroyed recently and even though i thought i'd be somehow emotionally impervious, it was heart-breaking and gut-wrenching...no matter how much i justify it intellectually, i still find the destruction of pianos to be highly unpalatable.... thankyou all for interesting and passionate responses to my original questions....has been insightful |
| pianoboe |
May 11 2007, 09:00 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1356 Joined: 20-February 07 From: Nr Leeds, UK Member No.: 9616 |
witnessed a piano being destroyed recently and even though i thought i'd be somehow emotionally impervious, it was heart-breaking and gut-wrenching...no matter how much i justify it intellectually, i still find the destruction of pianos to be highly unpalatable.... thankyou all for interesting and passionate responses to my original questions....has been insightful I could not watch it either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) |
| Rock Star Guy |
May 12 2007, 11:53 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 17-September 06 From: Glasgow, Scotland Member No.: 7695 |
Just don't ever do it to a steinway.
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