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> 3rd Position Encouragement
Artfulzebra
post Apr 26 2007, 05:24 PM
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Hi folks,

My daughter recently started working towards her grade 3 violin exam and is tackling 3rd position. She's finding it really difficult and no amount of encouragement seems to help. ;o( Can anyone suggest any ways I can help her to regain her enjoyment of playing and/or any 3rd position tips?

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Maz

*edit* sorry, I think this is probably on the wrong forum but I can't work out how to move it to the strings one!
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musical_K
post Apr 27 2007, 03:13 PM
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Crumbs, I didn't remember 3rd position coming in that early.
..... It was always 2nd and 4th position that phased me most...


Almost word for word what I was going to say (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If it's possible to find a piece/study that would be hideous to play in 1st position (i.e with lots of evil string-crossings etc?), but really easy in 3rd then that would be good. That's what my teacher got me to do, (but of course I can't remember the name of the piece or composer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ).
I found it really good because with my grade 3 pieces I always thought "what's the point of playing this in 3rd when it's so much easier in 1st???" as well.

And unfortunatly (prepare yourself for the cliché)........practice makes perfect. (*cringe* I sound like my mum (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )
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post Apr 27 2007, 04:38 PM
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If it's possible to find a piece/study that would be hideous to play in 1st position (i.e with lots of evil string-crossings etc?), but really easy in 3rd then that would be good.


There are two books you can get for cello, one is Go Fourth and one is Taylor-Made Pieces (the composer is Lorna Taylor, hence the 'Taylor-Made'). These books involve no position shifts, but are pieces written for whichever position it's dealing with, with the aim of teaching and reinforcing fingerboard geography. Go Fourth is 4th position, Taylor-made does 1/2, lower 2nd, upper 2nd, 3rd and extensions!

Maybe some of the violinists in here can say if there are violin equivalent books/exercises/pieces/etc?
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Artfulzebra   3rd Position Encouragement   Apr 26 2007, 05:24 PM
violincjj   Play some easy pieces by ear in 3rd position. It ...   Apr 26 2007, 07:32 PM
Minstrel   Have you seen 'Nifty Shifts'? I use it qu...   Apr 26 2007, 08:47 PM
Clari Nicki1   My daughter has just started shifting to 3rd posit...   Apr 26 2007, 09:41 PM
SatayPiano   study book, definately they're incredibly bori...   Apr 26 2007, 10:03 PM
Morgan's Munchkin   I agree that just practicing it with some simple p...   Apr 26 2007, 10:27 PM
sarah-flute   Crumbs, I didn't remember 3rd position coming ...   Apr 26 2007, 10:30 PM
musical_K   Almost word for word what I was going to say :l...   Apr 27 2007, 03:13 PM
sarah-flute   Almost word for word what I was going to say :lol...   Apr 27 2007, 03:14 PM
Maizie   If it's possible to find a piece/study that wo...   Apr 27 2007, 04:38 PM
jojo   And unfortunatly (prepare yourself for the cli...   May 15 2007, 04:43 PM
STRINGMUM   When no2 started on 3rd position as well as using ...   Apr 27 2007, 05:16 PM
Andromeda_Aiken   My teacher has always told me when shifting to the...   May 1 2007, 12:11 PM
Schwournes   If she plays in 3rd position more she will get mor...   May 3 2007, 06:55 PM
Minstrel   Does her teacher teach shifting straight away or i...   May 10 2007, 07:58 PM
Ellie Rose   Hi everyone! I'm the daughter that is the ...   May 11 2007, 08:20 PM
sarah-flute   Hi Ellie Rose! :)   May 12 2007, 12:35 PM
organist_katy   I think everyone has covered what I'd say, but...   May 12 2007, 12:46 PM
Minstrel   Welcome to the forums! Don't worry too mu...   May 14 2007, 03:27 PM

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