Abrsm Is Much Easier Than Trinity

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Abrsm Is Much Easier Than Trinity

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roryt	Jun 29 2007, 09:23 PM Post #1
Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 24-June 07 From: Northampton, UK Member No.: 12414	I am a euphonium player and have taken guildhall/trinity grades from 1 to 8 and I saw the syllabus for abrsm the other day and they just seem really stupidly easy. The pieces are roughly one grade below the trinity ones. Where I live very few brass players take abrsm grades. The only thing I can think of is the grade 5 theory thing that is harder for abrsm but I have that anyway. Which do you think is harder?

Scaramouche	Jun 29 2007, 09:32 PM Post #2
Prodigy Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 26-March 07 Member No.: 10322	Perhaps you are just a genius.

mrbouffant	Jun 29 2007, 09:40 PM Post #3
Unregistered	Dost peleted.

roryt	Jun 29 2007, 09:53 PM Post #4
Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 24-June 07 From: Northampton, UK Member No.: 12414	I don't think its that somehow.

chocolatedog	Jun 29 2007, 10:24 PM Post #5
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 3861 Joined: 4-June 05 Member No.: 3798	Maybe it's just for euphonium - the piano syllabi look similar in standard in general.............

skylark	Jun 29 2007, 10:37 PM Post #6
Unregistered	QUOTE(roryt @ Jun 29 2007, 10:23 PM) I am a euphonium player and have taken guildhall/trinity grades from 1 to 8 and I saw the syllabus for abrsm the other day and they just seem really stupidly easy. The pieces are roughly one grade below the trinity ones. Where I live very few brass players take abrsm grades. The only thing I can think of is the grade 5 theory thing that is harder for abrsm but I have that anyway. Which do you think is harder? Hi roryt, I do the ABRSM exams and I'm not really in a position to compare, but you're the first person I've ever heard say that the exams are easy! You're new aren't you - what about telling us a bit about yourself, like do you play with a band, what sort of music do you like playing... ? Ooops, that would probably be off-topic, but maybe you'll introduce yourself in the New Members forum sometime (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

mcm	Jun 29 2007, 10:49 PM Post #7
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 679 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Scotland Member No.: 10395	The ABRSM exams have masses of scales/arpeggios, though, which I believe is not the case for Trinity/Guildhall?

KixMusic	Jun 29 2007, 11:49 PM Post #8
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: 3-January 06 Member No.: 5709	QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Jun 29 2007, 10:32 PM) Perhaps you are just a genius. Thats a bit harsh Scaramouche! Actually, as a brass teacher, I'm inclined to agree with Rory. There are a fair number of pieces on the TG lists that are set on the AB lists one grade higher, for example, Fantasty for Trombone is G6 for TG and G7 AB as is Dance Macabre from the trumpet/cornet list. There are lots of others too. Also, in addition to scales or scale exercises, for TG, brass players are required to do a lip flexiblity exercise as part of their technical work which they don't have to do for AB A G6 TG candidate could do their AB G7 playing pretty much the same pieces as they did for TG G6, so surely that supports Rory's view?

Dulciana	Jun 30 2007, 12:27 AM Post #9
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5718 Joined: 11-January 06 Member No.: 5811	QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Jun 29 2007, 10:40 PM) Dost peleted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Can only imagine.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Dulciana	Jun 30 2007, 01:02 AM Post #10
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 5718 Joined: 11-January 06 Member No.: 5811	QUOTE(Dulciana @ Jun 30 2007, 01:27 AM) QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Jun 29 2007, 10:40 PM) Dost peleted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Can only imagine.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) In all seriousness, though. A grade or two here or there doesn't matter. Pieces appear on different syllabi at different grades all the time, but I think the standard required to get a particular mark is still much the same; maybe a faster tempo will be required for the same piece at a higher grade, or more musicality. The different boards are compared here quite often, which might explain the shortness of the replies. Click search and then type in trinity v ABRSM to read some some more.

spaceman	Jun 30 2007, 02:21 AM Post #11
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 336 Joined: 21-May 04 From: U.S.A. (East Coast) Member No.: 1384	I just started working on Grade 8 level piano pieces. Earlier this week I showed my teacher a couple of books of past G8 ABRSM pieces and one Trinity G8 book so we could choose some pieces to work on. He commented that the Trinity pieces looked a bit harder than the ABRSM ones. (But he could still sight them all with zero preparation!) Personally I couldn't really tell from just glancing at them - although Trinity does use a smaller font which I don't like!

lizbun	Jun 30 2007, 05:23 AM Post #12
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4774 Joined: 11-July 06 From: somewhere Member No.: 7250	I think the trnity pieces are slightly easier

sarah-flute	Jun 30 2007, 06:06 AM Post #13
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 25735 Joined: 14-December 04 From: Insomniaville Member No.: 2729	QUOTE(KixMusic @ Jun 30 2007, 12:49 AM) Actually, as a brass teacher, I'm inclined to agree with Rory. There are a fair number of pieces on the TG lists that are set on the AB lists one grade higher, for example, Fantasty for Trombone is G6 for TG and G7 AB as is Dance Macabre from the trumpet/cornet list. There are lots of others too. Conversely, I have noticed quite a few pieces on the Trinity lists for flute which appear a grade higher than on the AB lists. Which board is more difficult depends on so many things including what your particular strengths and weaknesses are. I do think that calling a set of exams "stupidly easy" as roryt has done is bordering on trolling, so the negative response from some posters is understandable.

Appassionata	Jun 30 2007, 06:30 AM Post #14
Prodigy Group: Members Posts: 1570 Joined: 8-April 04 From: Down South! Member No.: 960	I disagree for the sax/clarinet syllabus'. I think both the old and new Trinity/Guildhall exams are relatively easier and for the old Guildhall exams, it was much easier to score a Merit/Honours due to the lower bandings. I personally have taken exams and entered pupils with each board. I think the pieces are roughly on a par, give or take a few inconsistencies, however the other tests are more student friendly esp the aural grade 8 for Trinity Guildhall and therefore a higher mark in this area is more achievable.

roryt	Jun 30 2007, 09:04 AM Post #15
Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 24-June 07 From: Northampton, UK Member No.: 12414	QUOTE(spaceman @ Jun 30 2007, 03:21 AM) (But he could still sight them all with zero preparation!) I would be pretty annoyed if i were a teacher and couldn't site read my students stuff especially up to and including grade 8. QUOTE(Appassionata @ Jun 30 2007, 07:30 AM) I disagree for the sax/clarinet syllabus'. I was really talking about the brass syllabus becasue I have no idea about woodwind.

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