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| stratlg |
Jun 30 2007, 01:01 PM
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Hello all! I'm designing a scale book and I'm wondering if there is a standard upon which music publishers rely as far as deciding which name a scale receives? Is it equally acceptable to name a scale G# Minor as it is A Flat Minor? It seems like an arbitrary decision, so I am just going to pick A Flat Minor... is this something I should be concerned with?
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| Roseau |
Jun 30 2007, 10:02 PM
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I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend not to think about relative majors/minors but instead think of the major scale and flatten the third (etc.) to turn it into a minor scale. I think this is because when I practised scales on the piano I used to play every possible scale starting on one particular note.
My oboe teacher says that this is a pianist's way of doing things and on a woodwind instrument fingering is more logical (and easier to remember) if you think major/relative minor and it should therefore be G# because it is the relative minor of B major. He is probably right if you are learning them from scratch but I still prefer my way. |
| sbhoa |
Jul 1 2007, 09:11 AM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18920 Joined: 31-October 03 From: Tameside Member No.: 24 |
I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend not to think about relative majors/minors but instead think of the major scale and flatten the third (etc.) to turn it into a minor scale. I think this is because when I practised scales on the piano I used to play every possible scale starting on one particular note. My oboe teacher says that this is a pianist's way of doing things and on a woodwind instrument fingering is more logical (and easier to remember) if you think major/relative minor and it should therefore be G# because it is the relative minor of B major. He is probably right if you are learning them from scratch but I still prefer my way. I'm not sure about it being the pianists way..... or not until about grade 5 at least. I encourage my students to practice scales in related pairs to cement the idea of the shared key signature. I only practised by playing everything on a particular starting note when I knew the related keys inside out. |
| Roseau |
Jul 1 2007, 12:09 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5786 Joined: 29-January 06 Member No.: 6007 |
I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend not to think about relative majors/minors but instead think of the major scale and flatten the third (etc.) to turn it into a minor scale. I think this is because when I practised scales on the piano I used to play every possible scale starting on one particular note. My oboe teacher says that this is a pianist's way of doing things and on a woodwind instrument fingering is more logical (and easier to remember) if you think major/relative minor and it should therefore be G# because it is the relative minor of B major. He is probably right if you are learning them from scratch but I still prefer my way. I'm not sure about it being the pianists way..... or not until about grade 5 at least. I encourage my students to practice scales in related pairs to cement the idea of the shared key signature. I only practised by playing everything on a particular starting note when I knew the related keys inside out. You're probably right. I don't really remember how I first learnt scales on the piano but presume I did so by related keys. I was thinking back to the time when I would happily play scales for an hour a day but this was preparing for grade 8. |
stratlg G # Minor Or A Flat Min? Jun 30 2007, 01:01 PM
teenviolinist It has to be G# minor, I can't remember why, m... Jun 30 2007, 01:19 PM
kenm Hello all! I'm designing a scale book and ... Jun 30 2007, 08:17 PM
sarah-flute I've always thought of G# minor as Ab minor on... Jun 30 2007, 08:27 PM
andante_in_c The Trinity Guildhall Grade 6 recorder syllabus as... Jun 30 2007, 09:03 PM
briantrumpet You need to know and understand both, so I'd p... Jun 30 2007, 11:10 PM
janexxx *goes to check Carl Flesch scale book*
G# minor
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fsharpminor Well there are certainly pieces written in both G#... Jul 2 2007, 07:38 AM
janexxx Maybe it is always G# minor so the student can... Jul 2 2007, 05:00 PM
Cyrilla :lol: Jul 2 2007, 10:08 PM![]() ![]() |
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