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> G # Minor Or A Flat Min?
stratlg
post Jun 30 2007, 01:01 PM
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Hello all! I'm designing a scale book and I'm wondering if there is a standard upon which music publishers rely as far as deciding which name a scale receives? Is it equally acceptable to name a scale G# Minor as it is A Flat Minor? It seems like an arbitrary decision, so I am just going to pick A Flat Minor... is this something I should be concerned with?
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post Jun 30 2007, 10:02 PM
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I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend not to think about relative majors/minors but instead think of the major scale and flatten the third (etc.) to turn it into a minor scale. I think this is because when I practised scales on the piano I used to play every possible scale starting on one particular note.

My oboe teacher says that this is a pianist's way of doing things and on a woodwind instrument fingering is more logical (and easier to remember) if you think major/relative minor and it should therefore be G# because it is the relative minor of B major. He is probably right if you are learning them from scratch but I still prefer my way.
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QUOTE(kerioboe @ Jun 30 2007, 11:02 PM) *

I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend not to think about relative majors/minors but instead think of the major scale and flatten the third (etc.) to turn it into a minor scale. I think this is because when I practised scales on the piano I used to play every possible scale starting on one particular note.

My oboe teacher says that this is a pianist's way of doing things and on a woodwind instrument fingering is more logical (and easier to remember) if you think major/relative minor and it should therefore be G# because it is the relative minor of B major. He is probably right if you are learning them from scratch but I still prefer my way.


I'm not sure about it being the pianists way..... or not until about grade 5 at least.
I encourage my students to practice scales in related pairs to cement the idea of the shared key signature.
I only practised by playing everything on a particular starting note when I knew the related keys inside out.
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QUOTE(sbhoa @ Jul 1 2007, 11:11 AM) *

QUOTE(kerioboe @ Jun 30 2007, 11:02 PM) *

I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend not to think about relative majors/minors but instead think of the major scale and flatten the third (etc.) to turn it into a minor scale. I think this is because when I practised scales on the piano I used to play every possible scale starting on one particular note.

My oboe teacher says that this is a pianist's way of doing things and on a woodwind instrument fingering is more logical (and easier to remember) if you think major/relative minor and it should therefore be G# because it is the relative minor of B major. He is probably right if you are learning them from scratch but I still prefer my way.


I'm not sure about it being the pianists way..... or not until about grade 5 at least.
I encourage my students to practice scales in related pairs to cement the idea of the shared key signature.
I only practised by playing everything on a particular starting note when I knew the related keys inside out.


You're probably right. I don't really remember how I first learnt scales on the piano but presume I did so by related keys. I was thinking back to the time when I would happily play scales for an hour a day but this was preparing for grade 8.
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stratlg   G # Minor Or A Flat Min?   Jun 30 2007, 01:01 PM
teenviolinist   It has to be G# minor, I can't remember why, m...   Jun 30 2007, 01:19 PM
kenm   Hello all! I'm designing a scale book and ...   Jun 30 2007, 08:17 PM
sarah-flute   I've always thought of G# minor as Ab minor on...   Jun 30 2007, 08:27 PM
andante_in_c   The Trinity Guildhall Grade 6 recorder syllabus as...   Jun 30 2007, 09:03 PM
kerioboe   I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend no...   Jun 30 2007, 10:02 PM
sbhoa   I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend n...   Jul 1 2007, 09:11 AM
kerioboe   I prefer to think about it as Ab because I tend ...   Jul 1 2007, 12:09 PM
briantrumpet   You need to know and understand both, so I'd p...   Jun 30 2007, 11:10 PM
janexxx   *goes to check Carl Flesch scale book* G# minor ...   Jul 1 2007, 09:23 AM
fsharpminor   Well there are certainly pieces written in both G#...   Jul 2 2007, 07:38 AM
janexxx   Maybe it is always G# minor so the student can...   Jul 2 2007, 05:00 PM
Cyrilla   :lol:   Jul 2 2007, 10:08 PM

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