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| Babybird2 |
Dec 10 2010, 06:12 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3853 Joined: 20-February 08 From: Yorkshire Member No.: 25449 |
I don't know much about dentistry to be honest, but it's certainly got high entry requirements and it lasts 5 years... I lived with a dentistry student in 1st year and she kept complaining that it was hard work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Anyway.... I wish I had all the answers. I don't, unfortunately. I know plenty of engineers and they seem reasonably happy with their jobs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . But there is still a jobs shortage... for engineers, scientists etc. I'm an unemployed scientist (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
| Panthera |
Dec 10 2010, 06:13 PM
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Prodigy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1076 Joined: 4-April 08 From: London Member No.: 28188 |
I'm puzzled by "olive skin" (which is how a girl is described in a book I'm reading) Aren't olives either different shades of green or solid black? Neither makes very good skin tone in my opinion... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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| Misti |
Dec 10 2010, 06:36 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3097 Joined: 31-March 04 Member No.: 879 |
I'm guessing that the people mentioning all students paying ?9k per year are factoring in ?6k plus at least ?3k in tuition fees. Of course, if you had any ambition of studying at a Russel Group (who will blatently all charge ?9k), then its actually ?12k-?13k you'll have to borrow each year.
See, since my parents are only moderate well off, I get to borrow extra maintainance loan (and a good thing to, seeing as my parents are of the opinion their financial obligations to me ended at age 18). So my maintainance loan is typically around ?4k. So add that to the ?9k top rate, and you're looking at ?13k per year. My sister graduated with a student loan which amounted to ?12k in total. Because I was daft enough to do an 'important' STEM subject, most of which require 4 years of study, mine is about ?40k. I'm having to borrow about ?7k for each year at uni plus interest. Last time I checked the loan was growing by around ?35 per month - so much for interest free. So, considering that I'm getting fairly -impolite phrase deleted- already, I really feel for the scientists, engineers and mathematicans of the future, who won't really want to consider 4 year courses. They won't be able to afford them. Uni will be somewhere you get out of asap, doing a two or three year course to keep the debt down. Because under the new proposals, that debt will be taken into account when you apply for a mortgage. At present it isn't. So yup, the new proposals will deter people from studying STEM subjects. What a brilliant proposal. Moving onwards, poor students. Who will supposedly be better off. Well, the thing with poor students is that they tend to come from families where debt is a BAD THING. Most of my genuinely low income friends wouldn't dream of borrowing thousands for anything without an obvious capital value - a house or car, for example. Borrowing thousands to gamble on getting a degree that MIGHT improve your job prospects is a huge risk. A risk that most young people from poorer families won't be willing to take. I say this with such confidence, because most of my friends from secondary school decided uni was too expensive to be a realistic option when it only involved borrowing around ?12k to get a degree. Instead they took their talents and A Levels, got low paid jobs, and started popping out babies. Most of them are doing okay for themselves, after all, they were bright young people who could easily have got into university. So, poor students are reluctant to borrow lots of money for education, regardless of how often some poncy politician tries to tell them this new system is fair. They also tend not to know much about applying for university, the options at university, how the funding works, or anything really helpful to make their decisions. Often they'll be at schools where the teachers may not have much experience of assisting with uni applications, so aren't much help either. To try and counter this lack of information, there was this wonderful program known as AimHigher, which ran events to help pupils and their parents find out more about Uni. It did a lot of good. I know - I benefitted very directly from it, and it assisted me a lot in making the right long term decisions. Its just been scrapped. So, our wonderfully ignorant ministers have not only just made Higher Education a lot less appealing to poor families. They've also just scrapped the scheme that helped encourage them to consider it in the first place. Its all very well saying that universties will have to do more to increase their appeal, but I lived in a rural area where top universities are highly unlikely to consider sending representatives. So in conclusion, I believe the new system will make studying STEM subjects less appealing and put poor families off HE. So I oppose it strongly. I am so angry and frustrated that our politicians do not understand these 'on the ground' issues, and don't appear to be listening to those that do. I think I can relate to why some people might feel like breaking things. All that potential, all those children, who have had their futures sold to pay for the mistakes of the past. I'm not angry because I'll have to pay more (which I will). I'm angry for those who will miss out without any idea of what they've lost. And of course those students on TV can't explain all this. The media wouldn't give them the time to even get started. |
| barry-clari |
Dec 10 2010, 06:44 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 40574 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804 |
All that potential, all those children, who have had their futures sold to pay for the mistakes of the past. I'm not angry because I'll have to pay more (which I will). I'm angry for those who will miss out without any idea of what they've lost. That is the main (terribly sad) thing - along with the hierarchy of the Liberal Democrats saying 'we will scrap tuition fees' when they...er...haven't. In spades. Vandalising things (words cannot express what I feel about vandalising such monuments as the Cenotaph (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ) though is not the way forward, and it's a real shame some people had to do that, when the majority of protesters wanted to protest peacefully. |
| Solari |
Dec 10 2010, 07:03 PM
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That is the main (terribly sad) thing - along with the hierarchy of the Liberal Democrats saying 'we will scrap tuition fees' when they...er...haven't. In spades. They probably made a lot of those promises thinking that they'd never be elected into government and actually have to deliver on them! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If you scrapped tuition fees altogether, where would the money come from seeing as there's "none left"? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
| barry-clari |
Dec 10 2010, 07:31 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 40574 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'.
What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
| Car Expert |
Dec 10 2010, 08:00 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 30699 Joined: 15-May 05 From: UK - rural North Norfolk\East Anglia. Lincoln 104 miles. Ipswich 66 miles. Oxford 193 miles. Lewes 199 miles. Member No.: 3680 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'. They have one sports star and one celebrity on each team now rather than two sports stars.What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Car Expert |
| barry-clari |
Dec 10 2010, 08:02 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 40574 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'. They have one sports star and one celebrity on each team now rather than two sports stars.What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Car Expert Pity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Have we not got enough celebrity shows on TV now? Don't get me started on 'All Star Family Fortunes'... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
| Car Expert |
Dec 10 2010, 08:04 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 30699 Joined: 15-May 05 From: UK - rural North Norfolk\East Anglia. Lincoln 104 miles. Ipswich 66 miles. Oxford 193 miles. Lewes 199 miles. Member No.: 3680 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'. They have one sports star and one celebrity on each team now rather than two sports stars.What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Car Expert Car Expert |
| barry-clari |
Dec 10 2010, 08:09 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 40574 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'. They have one sports star and one celebrity on each team now rather than two sports stars.What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Car Expert Car Expert You only know that 'cos you watched the programme, CE (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
| Car Expert |
Dec 10 2010, 08:09 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 30699 Joined: 15-May 05 From: UK - rural North Norfolk\East Anglia. Lincoln 104 miles. Ipswich 66 miles. Oxford 193 miles. Lewes 199 miles. Member No.: 3680 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'. They have one sports star and one celebrity on each team now rather than two sports stars.What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Car Expert Car Expert Car Expert |
| barry-clari |
Dec 10 2010, 08:10 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 40574 Joined: 10-January 06 From: South East London Member No.: 5804 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'. They have one sports star and one celebrity on each team now rather than two sports stars.What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Car Expert Car Expert Car Expert (IMG:style_emoticons/default/notworthy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
| Car Expert |
Dec 10 2010, 08:12 PM
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Maestro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 30699 Joined: 15-May 05 From: UK - rural North Norfolk\East Anglia. Lincoln 104 miles. Ipswich 66 miles. Oxford 193 miles. Lewes 199 miles. Member No.: 3680 |
I'm watching 'A Question of Sport'. They have one sports star and one celebrity on each team now rather than two sports stars.What exactly has former X Factor finalist Olly Murs got to do with sport? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Car Expert Car Expert Car Expert Car Expert |
| AuroraViolin |
Dec 10 2010, 09:59 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 17-May 10 Member No.: 102511 |
What can I do with about 500g of bean sprouts that isn't stir fry?!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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| corenfa |
Dec 10 2010, 10:04 PM
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Virtuoso ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4222 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Here Member No.: 95861 |
What can I do with about 500g of bean sprouts that isn't stir fry?!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) * noodle soup: A ramen noodle packet, with shredded chicken, then toss in beansprouts for 30 seconds before removing the heat. * spring rolls: shred cabbage, carrot and onion, fry vegetables (including bean sprouts) lightly with garlic, pepper and soy sauce. Wrap with spring roll wrappers and steam (or deep fry if you REALLY want to be unhealthy) * blanch, cool, put in vegetable wrap sandwiches with shredded vegetables and hummous, avocado, raisins, etc * salad: blanch beansprouts, toss with raw shredded cabbage, carrot, onion with vinegar, ginger, garlic, soy, shredded chilli and a little bit of fried garlic oil If you're really confident about their cleanliness you can skip the blanching. |
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