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Grade 3 Pianoforte, SOPRA IN THE ALLEGRETTO BY TURK

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cel	Jul 4 2008, 03:49 PM Post #1
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 11-October 06 Member No.: 7939	I have a pupil working on her Grade 3 piano and in all my 35 years of playing, I have never come across SOPRA (meaning ABOVE/ON). In the Allegretto by Turk there are three. It is a study for crossing hands, therefore, could anyone confirm that it should be played firstly as the left hand over right to play a top F# and then followed by a middle D (LH over RH)and then lastly, a top G again LH over RH. Am I being thick or have I got this right? :

Czerny	Jul 4 2008, 04:27 PM Post #2
Virtuoso Group: Members Posts: 4137 Joined: 7-December 07 Member No.: 21097	QUOTE(cel @ Jul 4 2008, 04:49 PM) I have a pupil working on her Grade 3 piano and in all my 35 years of playing, I have never come across SOPRA (meaning ABOVE/ON). In the Allegretto by Turk there are three. It is a study for crossing hands, therefore, could anyone confirm that it should be played firstly as the left hand over right to play a top F# and then followed by a middle D (LH over RH)and then lastly, a top G again LH over RH. Am I being thick or have I got this right? : I agree with your interpretation of bar 9, but bar 12 looks like RH over LH playing D two octaves below middle C; bar 17 is LH over RH starting on G above middle C, not high G. In the last example it's only with middle D that there's actually any crossing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) That way it has three different versions of hand-crossing: the whole arm crossing both directions and one hand playing directly underneath the other (bar 17).

jenny	Jul 4 2008, 06:22 PM Post #3
Prodigy Group: Members Posts: 1981 Joined: 16-September 06 From: Durham Member No.: 7686	QUOTE(Czerny @ Jul 4 2008, 05:27 PM) I agree with your interpretation of bar 9, but bar 12 looks like RH over LH playing D two octaves below middle C; bar 17 is LH over RH starting on G above middle C, not high G. In the last example it's only with middle D that there's actually any crossing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) That way it has three different versions of hand-crossing: the whole arm crossing both directions and one hand playing directly underneath the other (bar 17). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have had two students who played this piece in their exams - I really like it and so did they. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

cel	Jul 5 2008, 10:43 AM Post #4
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 11-October 06 Member No.: 7939	Thank you, I think I've got it! Am I right in thinking that the word SOPRA is for the hands going on top and above and doesn't apply at all to the notes. I think that's why I was confused. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

sbhoa	Jul 5 2008, 11:54 AM Post #5
Maestro Group: Members Posts: 19001 Joined: 31-October 03 From: Tameside Member No.: 24	QUOTE(cel @ Jul 5 2008, 11:43 AM) Thank you, I think I've got it! Am I right in thinking that the word SOPRA is for the hands going on top and above and doesn't apply at all to the notes. I think that's why I was confused. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Yes, Sopra refers to what the hand does and not the notes. If the notes were at a different octave the 8va sign would be used.

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