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> Music Appropriate For Lent, Preventing a faux pas.
Swell Box
post Mar 4 2009, 03:05 PM
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Don't shoot me; I'm only the messenger! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I was a little surprised myself, but I presume (or presumed) these people know what they are talking about. Sadly the character in question makes Gordon Brown look like a stand up comedian, and when he gets to choose the hymns the services take on a rather 'funereal' atmosphere. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

As for the comments about smiling in the choir; the last time that happened they were all singing in time and in tune, and that was a very long time ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 4 2009, 03:19 PM
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haha. Maybe it was just solo reeds. Certainly if you are lucky enough to have a large and very loud instrument, discreet use during Lent makes Easter even more of a big joyful contrast.

We certainly don't lack levity though - a minute or two of stand-up comedy is more the norm than the exception just before the vestry prayer - it's not unusual for the choir to walk in only just managing to keep straight faces.

I love the solemnity of Lent, but I never understood the idea of long faces. My first organ teacher used to say ' I may be a sinner but I'm not miserable about it'.
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post Mar 4 2009, 05:22 PM
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There are a lot of organists who maintain a tradition of no reeds during Lent.

I tend to play with lesser registrations in Lent than I would at other times of the year (as I do during Advent too) so that there's a sense of anticipation leading towards the major festival when the organ can really thunder forth.

Well, that's what I think anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 4 2009, 08:02 PM
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Well, thank you everyone for your thoughts on this rather spurious matter.

I promise this was a serious question, but it does seem that perhaps the Lay Reader in question was interpreting things rather too literally.

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post Mar 4 2009, 10:22 PM
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If I leave out the reeds I don't have a lot left! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

* Mel flicks through her A M-T to check which ones are reeds*
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post Mar 4 2009, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(mel2 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:22 PM) *

* Mel flicks through her A M-T to check which ones are reeds*

Your A M-T? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Best used as a prop to raise the height of the organ stool, methinks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 5 2009, 07:50 AM
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? Ancient and Modern Translated ?
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post Mar 5 2009, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Holz Gedeckt @ Mar 4 2009, 11:42 PM) *

QUOTE(mel2 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:22 PM) *

* Mel flicks through her A M-T to check which ones are reeds*

Your A M-T? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Best used as a prop to raise the height of the organ stool, methinks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


The new Mission Praise is much better for that, especially if you have long legs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Mar 5 2009, 11:13 AM
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The A M-T is on loan from my teacher. I shall maintain a neutral stance in case I ever meet the lady. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Given that I sometimes have trouble stretching my 31" trouser length legs to the required pedals the last thing I need is is a higher organ stool.

We also use NMP here. With me using reeds to play from NMP there may well be a bolt of lightning from this corner of the land.
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post Mar 5 2009, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(mel2 @ Mar 5 2009, 11:13 AM) *

The A M-T is on loan from my teacher. I shall maintain a neutral stance in case I ever meet the lady. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Given that I sometimes have trouble stretching my 31" trouser length legs to the required pedals the last thing I need is is a higher organ stool.

We also use NMP here. With me using reeds to play from NMP there may well be a bolt of lightning from this corner of the land.
You heard it here first!


But look on the bright side. At least if you use NMP to prop up the organ stool you cannot play from it at the same time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Heaven save us from 'As the Deer Pants for the Water'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I don't know about anyone else, but we often have to photocopy pages from our latest edition of Complete Mission Praise as the thing is far too big, and falls off the the organ!

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PS: I have just noticed that I have used colour CCCCCC for some of my text. Does that mean this forum has a 128 foot stop somewhere? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 5 2009, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Swell Box @ Mar 4 2009, 01:25 PM) *

Further to the posts above, I was reminded on Sunday that the Trumpet stop should not be used in services during Lent.



Hmm, the trumpet stop shouldn't be used unless the organ was tuned in the last five seconds.
The reeds shouldn't be used unless the organ was tuned in the last hour.

Never mind faux-pas from the organist, why don't they teach them at priesting school about not having weddings during Advent and Lent?
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post Mar 5 2009, 02:47 PM
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Never mind faux-pas from the organist, why don't they teach them at priesting school about not having weddings during Advent and Lent?


Now, let me think. Something to do with helping to pay the Parish Share perhaps? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

There again, look on the bright side; at least the church is warm for organ practice on Saturday afternoons. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You may be OK down there in Costa del Vectis, but it has been a bit brassy up here for the past few months. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/snowflake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/snow.gif)

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post Mar 15 2009, 12:56 PM
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Pity about the no reeds in lent rule as Heinlein (40 days and 40 nights) sound so good with the oboes on the swell with the box shut. I suppose you can get away using a diapason chorus on the great for the major key sections of (St Andrew of Crete) but its so refreshing to bring the heavy artillary in for the last verse.
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post Mar 15 2009, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(jod @ Mar 15 2009, 12:56 PM) *

Pity about the no reeds in lent rule as Heinlein (40 days and 40 nights) sound so good with the oboes on the swell with the box shut. I suppose you can get away using a diapason chorus on the great for the major key sections of (St Andrew of Crete) but its so refreshing to bring the heavy artillary in for the last verse.



What is this rule about 'no reeds in Lent' please?

I cannot find this in the Church of England Canons. Also, those of the 'high church' persuasion accept that Sundays in Lent are excluded. Or am I missing something? Perhaps it is a local practice. Does it included Oboes and soft Horns as well as Trumpets?

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I've got a really nasty Cornopean on one of the instruments I play. The sound it makes might be described as someone inside a metal dustbin, strangling a cat, while tumbling down a fire escape. I find that the use of this organistic excressence, is the perfect way to dispel any tendency among the people towards relaxation of the required Lenten gloom and despondency.
It was never pointed out to me that certain stops were liturgically constrained in use. Do you think the Great Mixture would be OK though, provided of course that I only draw it with the Dulciana and, stick 'em both down on the pedals ?

We had the Gloria this morning. We weren't supposed to, but I just launched into the intro from absent-minded force of habit, everyone joined in, not a word was said afterwards. Completely forgot to yank out the Cornopean though.

Onwards and ..... one way or another.

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